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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
Now I do think, fwiw, that the few 'good' polls we do have--like the recent Monmouth state polls in IA/GA--feel more consistent with Biden+8 or whatever than Biden+12. So it very well may be that the next 'good polls' show tightening as well. But we don't have that data yet — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
Basically, the 'good polls' have been better for Biden than average (which hasn't always been true and may not always be!). When we go without those polls, Biden's lead shrinks as the more prevalent polls, somewhat better for Trump, control the average. https://t.co/DrapQWzacT — PolitiTweet.org
DJGrizzBear @DJGrizzBear
@Nate_Cohn Could you expand on that?
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
This does have some consequences for poll aggregation, because right now pollster quality is closely correlated with pro-Biden house effects--a reversal from earlier in the year. So right now, these polling droughts shrink Biden's lead — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
And that's why we find ourselves with the major news organizations conducting polls at roughly the same times: they all have similar incentives and want to make sure they hit many of the same points of the race https://t.co/5NHWy1tGmx — PolitiTweet.org
Ben Yelin @byelin
There is sort of a frustrating pattern in the polling world while all of the major outlets seem to release polls at… https://t.co/6RmSCXRxXp
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
If you lay out the calendar, most organizations are going to want a poll ahead of the conventions/after the VP pick--and that means you probably avoid the late July period. https://t.co/EVHfKY2XNi — PolitiTweet.org
Daniel Dale @ddale8
@Nate_Cohn Why do you think we've had so few polls?
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
If you lay out the calendar, I think many organizations would want something ahead of the conventions in mid-August, which means you probably choose not to poll in late July — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
It's a murky moment for evaluating the state of the race, since we've had very few high-quality polls in the last three weeks. But I certainly agree with this characterization of what we do have https://t.co/JwXo6y6tFQ — PolitiTweet.org
(((Harry Enten))) @ForecasterEnten
It's pretty clear to me that no matter how you slice it Trump's position isnt getting any worse & perhaps is gettin… https://t.co/LhWgd…
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
@nickahamed yeah that's a real case — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
@EsotericCD personally, i would never drop PA — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
I'm a little surprised by the dominance so far of the PA-WI-MI combo. Maybe I shouldn't be, after 2016. But it's the least diverse of the bunch (can't you figure out MI from PA/WI?; how do you guess NC/AZ?) and the least useful if the election leans Biden — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
Alright let's eliminate PA, WI, MI, AZ and add one from the comments — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
As you know, lots of people think about six key battleground states: PA, WI, MI, AZ, FL, NC. But imagine that it's the day before the election, you don't know the state of the race, and you only got polls of four states. Which would you want? — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
RT @Phil_Mattingly: Schumer describes the meeting with the Postmaster General as “heated.” — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
And since my tweet isn't 100% clear: 'move last debate to early September' proposal means eliminating the current final debate and adding one in early Sept, not that a new debate in early Sept is somehow 'final' — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
And finally, if you accept the argument that the debates have more risk for Biden than Trump--which I think is reasonable--then moving that debate farther from the election may be in Biden's interest — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
It is quite clear that new registration numbers are low this year, likely to the disadvantage of Biden. I'd guess that's in part because people are less likely to move right now. But others could use an early prompt — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
Another argument: debates engage many low interest voters, prompting people to consider updating registration or applying for mail ballots well ahead of deadlines, while late Sept is against deadlines in many states — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
One possible argument: the last debate is just ten days or so before the election. Some people won't make up their minds until after the last debate. If you're worried about mail ballot returns being too late, then you want them deciding--and mailing in ballots--earlier. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
There's definitely an argument that the debates are too late this cycle, and I actually can imagine the Biden folks even thinking it makes sense to move the last debate to early September https://t.co/Q3Z0ATJMHd — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
There's definitely an argument that the debates are too late this cycle, and I actually can imagine them thinking it makes sense to move the last debate to early September https://t.co/Q3Z0ATJMHd — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
With respect to the folks at Marist, they have not made an argument against the need to weight by education. They only said that it's insufficient, which is true but irrelevant. No one wouldn't weight by race because it's not enough without education! https://t.co/47gChYNq3z — PolitiTweet.org
Bill Scher @billscher
Pew vs. Marist on education weighting https://t.co/wrtpb7jmuv
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
RT @juliaioffe: This is crazy footage from #Beirut. https://t.co/yFAvG7igEQ — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
And this line is about as clear as it can get: "Failing to adjust for survey respondents’ education level is a disqualifying shortfall in present-day battleground and national polls." — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
A good set of thoughts on how to think about polling from Courtney Kennedy. One thing I learned: Pew's weighting on *12* variables now! I thought we were a lot. https://t.co/Akfwx4TBfQ https://t.co/9aTL8tYL6U — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
Dear crowd, what are all of the online national (or state) polls with 'probability samples,' like Pew ATP, the AP/NORC AmeriSpeak panel, or Ipsos Knowledge panel. Anything else? — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
Interestingly, the LV screen works Biden's way in this poll and the race is tied in a 'low turnout LV' universe. Keep in mind that these LV screens are super noisy, but it is also possible that Biden could have at least a relative turnout edge in relatively white states — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
Trump by 3 in Iowa, 48 to 45, per Monmouth https://t.co/8HFmNS4MRt — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
@kkondik I mean I can conjure up an argument for Ernst being likelier to actually win as a result of elasticity or something, but in terms of predicted vote share I would have to think quite hard before betting that Ernst outruns Cornyn by a significant amount — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
@kkondik Anyway, I've been wrong or not seen something coming many times before and perhaps this will be the next occasion for it! But this one just doesn't quite add up for me — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
@kkondik McSally's not a typical incumbent, so that makes some sense to me. I do find Tillis odd, as well, but it's not like we're calling that race 'lean Dem' despite routine 7-9 pt leads for Cunningham. It's fundamentally in the same category as the presidential race, i'd think — PolitiTweet.org