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Nate Silver @NateSilver538
For example, putting resources into Ohio, as this thread advocates, is possibly a bad move for Biden under ordinary circumstances. It's not a disaster; there's an outside chance that things get weird & Ohio is the tipping-point state. But it's less important than, say, Wisconsin. https://t.co/M0iNsdN3Az — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
One reason it's important to *actually assess the probability* (in broad strokes, hard to be super precise) of Trump successfully stealing the election is that you're starting to see recommendations that might *otherwise hurt Biden's chances* in response to the perceived threat. — PolitiTweet.org
David Pepper @DavidPepper
THREAD I've said it privately, I've tweeted it some, but I'm going to lay it out bluntly. Please listen. Too many… https://t.co/H74IZEfcLY
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
@atrupar "There's a plausible chance of some very bad outcomes" is a pretty good assessment of the situation IMO. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
@ryxcommar LOL. Part of me wants to turn the model off but I think models and polling averages are useful as a benchmark for what the probabilities are absent interference. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
OK this is real bad tho — PolitiTweet.org
NBC News @NBCNews
Reporter: "Win, lose or draw in this election, will you commit here today for a peaceful transferal of power after… https://t.co/QdlzqKsxDX
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
Very much agree w/this thread. I think what's been annoying me is that it's time for clear-headed, fairly precise thinking about exactly what mechanisms Trump could use to steal the election and what the checks might be. There's been some of that—but also a lot of doom-porn. — PolitiTweet.org
Pwn All The Things @pwnallthethings
I mean, this is right in a sense. Lots of folks (imo) conflating chance of illegitimate attempts to subvert the ele… https://t.co/4jl1XQ2O1x
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
@BenjySarlin @zackbeauchamp @rickhasen Yeah, a lot of COVID stuff definitely comes to mind here! Including that some things are more likely if people aren't on guard about them. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
Yeah, I don't think we're disagreeing at all. People should be more worried about 1%, 2%, 5%, 10%, 15% probabilities, etc. when the consequences are very bad, in this case basically the end of our democracy as we know it. — PolitiTweet.org
Rick Hasen @rickhasen
You come at it like a statistician, which makes sense. I think of myself more like an engineer at a nuclear reactor… https://t.co/Vqafh0hpKg
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
@emptywheel @jeffhauser @rickhasen The whole point of my tweet was that people are starting to treat a plausible and very worrisome possibility as a near-certitude when that isn't warranted. Maybe you don't care about that distinction, but I think it's an important one. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
@jeffhauser @rickhasen So what would you say the odds are that Trump will successfully steal the election, to the nearest 5%? — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
I'd say "Indiana's doing the full Sweden" except Sweden actually has a lot more restrictions than this. https://t.co/Ca1xS6wFrL — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Guzman @zGuz
Indiana just opted to fully reopen in a Stage 5 return to normalcy Stage 5 dictates: • Restaurants, bars, and nig… https://t.co/58d9bQ4SqO
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
2. We've spent more time estimating the relationship between congressional and presidential voting and will now assume a stronger correlation than before. This makes little difference to the topline but will allow us to explore more scenarios, e.g. the chance of a D trifecta. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
These versions tend to be slightly worse for Collins, FWIW. We'll also be doing this for the presidential race, but it doesn't make much difference there. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
Couple small model notes: 1. In Maine, which has ranked choice voting, the model will now prefer to use the versions of the polls that show the results after second choices are accounted for. (Before, we had been averaging the pre- and post-reallocation versions together.) — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
Notes: 1. The state vs. national stuff is probably just noise, don't overthink it 2. "Good for Trump" is relative in this context. Anything that makes it seem like Trump has a credible path to victory is good for him relative to other polls — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
In a reversal of recent trends, state polls were good for Trump today but national polls have been good for Biden. https://t.co/QZaO0hcVW7 — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
@mattyglesias Furthermore, nothing would prove the #Resistance to be a #Fraud more than electing Democrats to all branches of government. #ResitanceFraudExposed — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
@jeffhauser @rickhasen Notwithstanding the anonymous sourcing (perhaps unavoidable in this context but an on-the-record whistleblower would be highly valuable here), "discussing contingency plans" is not a particularly strong claim. https://t.co/iId98A0nZz — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
@jeffhauser The reporting on the latter point is quite thin, and there are lots of reasons for the GOP to appoint a conservative justice as soon as they can irrespective of any plans to steal the election. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
It seems like the mood among some of the blue-checkmarks here has drifted a bit too liberally from "there's a plausible chance of some very bad outcomes" (true) to "Trump is fersure going to steal the election and you're all sheeple for thinking otherwise". — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
Younger Black voters are not as reliably Democratic as older ones. — PolitiTweet.org
Perry Bacon Jr. @perrybaconjr
.@sidney_b and I did a deep look at black voters. Most interesting dynamic is the generational differences. Older… https://t.co/PSjI9364OW
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
RT @FiveThirtyEight: Look for transparency in the data — even if you don’t go through it yourself. https://t.co/lYc1qZp2bR — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
Now, 2014 was a low-turnout midterm, so the percentage in a presidential election will be lower (perhaps 5-10%). But generally speaking, you do whatever you can to make sure that someone votes. A lot of people who are quite certain they'll vote don't wind up doing so. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
In 2014, about 16% of people that Pew deemed as likely voters — people who said they were nearly certain to vote and met various other fairly stringent criteria — did not wind up voting. https://t.co/zfWq7KLLvN https://t.co/Vh1XlsNs3P — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
So if Democrats were to discourage mail voting when they'd otherwise encourage it, out of fears that Trump will use it as a pretext to steal the election, that itself could make Trump's re-election more likely. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
Campaign operatives in both parties generally encourage voting by mail. The added convenience is thought to outweigh the small but nonzero additional risk that your ballot won't be counted, producing increased turnout among your voters overall. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
1. Mail voting generally increases turnout. 2. There's a pandemic. 3. This is victim-blaming wrapped up as a hot take. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
Really enjoyed doing this podcast! — PolitiTweet.org
David Aldridge @davidaldridgedc
So much in one hour with @NateSilver538 and @BigWos: •Did the Bubble eat the Clippers' title hopes? •Getting intel… https://t.co/QGWXOYb3rH
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
At the same time, the ABC/Post polls show an unusually wide registered vs. likely voter split, and most other polls this AM are pretty good for Biden. So not much indication the race has changed. But there is evidence that FL is a bright spot for Trump. https://t.co/de6e1opDuN https://t.co/Etf2r227Ev — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
These come on the heels of previous ABC/Post polls showing strong results for Biden in Minnesota and Wisconsin. So we're at least getting a consistent story here: comparative strength for Biden in the Midwest, weakness in the Sunbelt. — PolitiTweet.org