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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
Today at 1PM: NYT/Siena in Montana Next up: Texas https://t.co/bEePpsx829 — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
forgot link: https://t.co/YlQewT8fsF — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
Biden+7 in Pennsylvania from Muhlenberg College, 51 to 44 percent. This is a solid pollster and they have not shown rosy results for Biden in the past here. Their last two surveys were Biden+4 in August and a tied race in February. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
(I've been uncomfortable with the timing of this debate all year. It's so close to Election Day, both narrowing the window for final polling and potentially biasing surveys a bit in its immediate aftermath, for good measure. But I am hopeful that tonight should be fine) — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
I take the relatively unbiased party ID in the CNN 'instapoll' as a heartening sign on this front — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
My hope: with both sides feeling good enough about how their candidate fared in the debate, we should have a relatively unbiased read on the race in post-debate polling — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
No meaningful change in favorability for either candidate before and after the debate, per CNN instapoll — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
CNN instant poll... Biden 53, Trump 39 32D-31R party ID — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
RT @benyt: The story Trump has been waiting for, and teeing up.... is a brief that says there's no evidence for his central claim https://t… — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
Maybe this would be the big and concerted focus of a typical GOP campaign over the final stretch. But IDK if this is that campaign https://t.co/HAvdek25O3 — PolitiTweet.org
Josh Kraushaar @HotlineJosh
This was a big self inflicted blunder from Biden https://t.co/qOdcJy3OG7
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
@PatrickRuffini oh you're grateful we polled those states and added something besides some dem internals to the picture — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
All that said, this actually does make me feel pretty ok about the prospect of high turnout. If, like us, you've already baked the '18/20 Dem primary vote into your turnout model, then I think the new voters from there are probably pretty even — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
And worth noting that I'm not at all adjusting for the size of these various states, so Montana is getting 2x the weight of Florida, for example — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
And one last cut (again, pooling all states / data) All RVs: Biden 46, Trump 42 Our results: Biden 47, Trump 43 Validated 2018 voters: Biden 48, Trump 42 Validated 2016 voters: Biden 46, Trump 43 — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
And if we break those 'vote neither down': Newly reg: Biden 47, Trump 36 Previously reg: Trump 41, Biden 40 — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
Across all the polls we've done so far this fall (n=19000!): Vote 2018 only: Biden 52, Trump 37 Vote 2016 only: Trump 45, Biden 39 Vote neither Biden 44, Trump 38 Vote 2016 and 2018: Biden 48, Trump 43 — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
Still true in our polling — PolitiTweet.org
Oblivion2electricboogaloo @Oblivion2elect1
@Nate_Cohn @gelliottmorris Don't forget the non-16 voter breakdowns you did. 2018 only people hated Trump, but many… https://t.co/8QLAhUz55L
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
@gelliottmorris I don't think there was ever a day when Trump would have been favored in the nowcast, but I do think it was competitive. At that time, Trump still had ~'16 levels of support among white no college voters in the polls and PA/WI/MI were all close in the FiveThirtyEight avg — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
@kwcollins I agree; there's a real case for stability, dating all the way back to Jan 17, and there are issues with the case that it was just COVID. But at the same time, I do think there are similar issues with the case that Trump's defeat was inevitable, should it materialize — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
@kwcollins And at the time, a lot of people tried to explain away Trump's strength in Jan/February polling as about impeachment! — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
And these gains in Feb/March, at least as I recall them, weren't just about the Democratic primary. I mean, I remember people trying to dismiss it as differential non-response in favor of Trump because of impeachment, for example — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
Anyway, we'll never know what would have happened without COVID. But if you go through those FiveThirtyEight poll averages and look at where they were in March/April, I think you at least have to acknowledge that's very very different than where we are now — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
This WI trendline wasn't starting at 0 because it was the prior! https://t.co/0SQCKbCixW — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
The polling, though, was fairly clear: maybe Biden only up by about 5 among RVs at the end of the primary. The polls in Wisconsin were super close. The national polls showed Trump matching his '16 standing among white working class voters, which is nowhere near true today — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
I think this is at least possible but I'm wholly sold, either. The race was pretty plainly competitive in the late winter/early spring, IMO. Maybe Biden was hampered by temporarily by the primary, and his later gains were inevitable. But maybe not. https://t.co/Y27BBo9krH — PolitiTweet.org
Kevin Collins @kwcollins
When the story of this election is written, it will be tempting to tell it in terms of an epic presidential mismana… https://t.co/yjSeb6HpRN
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
Basic, earnest questions: --is it problematic for Biden to meet his son's business partner in 2017, after leaving office? --is this business venture allegedly corrupt or inappropriate? --did this business venture actually happen? — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
I've been quite busy with these polls, but I think I still follow this stuff more closely than the typical voter and I would say that I simply do not understand the basics of this story yet https://t.co/BS4u5h94cH — PolitiTweet.org
Edward-Isaac Dovere @IsaacDovere
Trump aides have been telling people that the big surprise in store for tonight's debate is he's bringing Tony Bobu… https://t.co/cg6xG3ZKid
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
In this case I do, but a lot of the time we wrap up interview the night before publication and turn it around in the AM https://t.co/c7021eNmuX — PolitiTweet.org
Derrick Neuner @drock89
@Nate_Cohn When you tweet these teases, do you already know what your poll is showing?
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
(this is from the MT poll today) — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
And here's an entirely different category: terminating interviews with people who refuse to answer questions. I like the transparency, even if it's not our approach https://t.co/7sV2z2BN1E — PolitiTweet.org