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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
I think that's still a pretty good guess, though getting from Biden +75/80k to 100k depends on two kinds of hazy votes that may be worse (or better) for Biden than I've roughly penciled-in: the 10k late absentees and provisional ballots https://t.co/T8rIKic2xi — PolitiTweet.org
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@Nate_Cohn @SeanTrende @JMilesColeman A couple days ago you said you thought Biden was on track to win PA by around… https://t.co/Z5dzdWgTVG
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
@davidshor @MattGrossmann you'd think that, but check out those quinnipiac polls — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
@SeanTrende i don't think i was first to come up with this one! maybe @JMilesColeman — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
The caution in close races is not strictly about the recount threshold, even though the .5 heuristic often lines up with automatic recount thresholds. https://t.co/Mu6TKhL6l8 — PolitiTweet.org
Alex Diaz @AlexODiaz1
@Nate_Cohn Arizona doesn't have recount unless it .1%.
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
The AP does not use the 'apparent winner' classification, unlike most news networks. So they don't really call races within a half point, regardless of the recount threshold — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
Why no call here? Well, the same baseline level of caution as AZ applies here. There's also the automatic recount at .5 pts. This, to my mind, does not preclude the 'apparent winner' characterization used by most networks, so I think we're mainly talking AZ-like caution here — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
To my mind, Georgia's just as clear as Arizona--if not more so. Biden's up by a similar amount, and we know he's winning the provisional ballots by a two-to-one margin. Half of the counties--mostly GOP counties--are certified. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
I do not believe the AP would call this race if they hadn't called it already. If you want proof, consider the next race: Georgia https://t.co/44KVTKqUNV — PolitiTweet.org
Josh Kitchen @JosFraKit
@Nate_Cohn Can't you accept the AP call in AZ now?
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
I don't think the non-call reflects a considered judgment that Trump has a realistic path. I do think when the race is this close, though, that there are 1-1000 risks of irregularities, data errors and so on. So my guess: it's just caution with a margin < .5 pts. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
Next up is Arizona, where Trump has no realistic hope of mounting a comeback but where none of the news network decision desks have made a projection (excluding the erroneous AP/Fox call on Election Night). Why isn't this one called? — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
First, we've uncalled NJ-07, which the AP called some time ago. In general, we automatically accept AP calls (a few exceptions, like top presidential states--where we independently evaluate whether to accept). I think we've seen enough to say the NJ-07 call was premature — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
I've got a lot of questions about race calls in my 'interactions' today, so let's go through a quick update — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
RT @JMilesColeman: Last night, @DecisionDeskHQ called Arizona for Biden. He got there, in large part, by flipping its most populous county,… — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
I do think the data supports the 'apparent winner' call in GA, tho I've never been quite clear on when they feel comfortable calling races < .5 pts I don't think 'likely winner' is a formal characterization, but it would have been useful last week https://t.co/eucViRqrZI — PolitiTweet.org
Eric Folkerth @ericfolkerth
@Nate_Cohn @SteveKornacki @NateSilver538 Why are outlets calling Biden the “Apparent Winner” in GA? And the “Likel… https://t.co/uHtztrllyZ
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
There's a distinct possibility that the 2016 turnout was more favorable for Dems than 2020. Still too soon to say, of course, but there's a serious argument that it's likelier than not at this point https://t.co/M9M0yf2OLi — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
RT @SeanTrende: This may be the most amazingly catastrophic branding of the decade. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
What if 'GOTV efforts' are a lot less powerful in mobilizing turnout than, say, everyone around you going to vote. Election Day being a nonevent in your neighbrhood/community/peer group may be demobilizing https://t.co/NVxouYcXx8 — PolitiTweet.org
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@Nate_Cohn Could they not do both, mail-in/absentee and also do gotv efforts on Election Day?
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
As an aside, I do wonder whether Democrats will rethink whether mail/early voting is a great deal, given how badly they get clobbered on Election Day--the time when low propensity, election winning voters go to the polls. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
I have no doubt--based on great data in FL/NV, and fuzzier data elsewhere--that GOP beat our final turnout estimates, and perhaps by a lot Whether that's only a modest or big part of the polling error is still an open question https://t.co/uVL5A7T5Km — PolitiTweet.org
Modestpenguin @Modestpenguin1
@Nate_Cohn I think it makes sense. Is it possible that polls couldn't capture emerging voters that do not belong to… https://t.co/3Akzthmalz
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
RT @maggieNYT: Yes. Except there are millions of his supporters who don't realize it's performance art and will believe what he says. https… — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
One thing I'll be interested to look at: does substate polling error correlate with census nonresponse https://t.co/nqoWAM8Jd3 — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
@tbonier our final poll was 38.9, 34.7 in NV. so that's a tad better for Dems than IRL, though not vastly so. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
@tbonier link? — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
@tbonier where besides FL — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
@henryolsenEPPC those are accepted ballots — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
@PoliticalKiwi no — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
The state absentee file provides an account of people who actually voted--by my count, 50.5k actually voted early in Orange County. It shouldn't be subject to any uncertainty about turnout--though I could have messed up! https://t.co/a3SOSaYxH3 — PolitiTweet.org
Nick @cnkirch1215
@Nate_Cohn Missing student votes because a lot of them stayed home due to the pandemic?
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
Anyway, even this wouldn't get you to a Biden victory! He needs a lot more than an extra 10k. But I do wonder whether these oddities have created an extra degree of caution beyond the outstanding raw provisionals / late absentees, which just don't add up to a credible case for Ds — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
IDK if that's true, but it sure seems to me like Edison Research's vote left estimate thinks the same thing https://t.co/2m8VopIRMU — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
To take one example that could help Democrats: I don't really understand why there aren't ~10k more early votes in Orange County (Chapel Hill). There are about 40k, but the absentee file--as I interpret it, and maybe I messed up--suggests there should be 50k — PolitiTweet.org