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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@evolgress @yeselson @mattyglesias if you reduce gerrymandering to merely being the rules of the game, then you're right. but if you also argue that it violates fundamental rights, then there's a moral dilemma / 'something' to the hypocrisy charge — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 6, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@evolgress @yeselson @mattyglesias that's why the response isn't 'there's absolutely nothing to the charge of hypocrisy,' which would actually contradict what i've said. it's simply 'we're justified anyway,' which may be entirely true! — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 6, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@evolgress @yeselson @mattyglesias yeah, that's basically right. i'm making a very banal--even uncontested--observation that people feel threatened by, because they'd like to see their actions as entirely righteous, rather than involving some unusual moral trade offs — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 6, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@JHWeissmann @bmaz @mjs_DC if you read what i've said, i'm not making moral judgments at all. what i'm noting is that there is an actual moral dilemma. the Dem resolution of it may be entirely justified, but pretending that there isn't a dilemma--whether to violate rights in this case--is moral abdication — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 6, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@ProfMattHall @mattyglesias lol i don't know why one would expect that; i certainly don't — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 6, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

Todd Gitlin, a Voice and Critic of the New Left, Dies at 79 - The New York Times https://t.co/SDC31ClCPG — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 6, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

RT @nytmike: NEW: To develop evidence to push DOJ on Trump, J6C operates like feds targeting terrorists/mobsters. J6C using 6 lowlevel aide… — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 5, 2022 Retweet
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@SpeakingBee we must be talking different north carolina supreme courts — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 5, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

One interesting question for the GOP is whether they can make both of the new light red CD's in GOP trending areas. This map has one of the new light red CDs in Wake County; they could easily lose it by the end of the decade. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 5, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

So here we have a map with the efficiency gap at 6.9 and mean/median at 2.6 for '20 pres. It's pretty close to the last Supreme Court approved map (R+6.6 and 2.8 for '16 pres), which is a natural standard for GOP to demand I think https://t.co/qJkhulPxw9 — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 5, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

I take that back--padding the VRA CD is probably in GOP interest, given that the VRA question wasn't sorted out. They wouldn't want to have to tack on adjusting that later on top of this, and it does help them a bit on partisan fairness — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 5, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

yeah, i left the VRA CD entirely untouched--the decision made no specific reference to it, as far as i could tell. making the district more D doesn't really help the GOP with 'fairness' measures. and again, a 'best for GOP' for map https://t.co/Ruy9nzSdMh — PolitiTweet.org

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@Nate_Cohn There’s still going to be issues with the north east North Carolina VRA district

Posted Feb. 5, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

and again, i'm not putting this out there to say this is the likeliest outcome; i'm doing it to say that i think this is the best plausibly defensible case for the GOP at this point. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 5, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

the case, i think, would rest on a comparison to the PA '18 map and the NC '20 redraw, and say that it's basically as fair as those maps (avg mean-median of 2.4 and efficiency gap of 6.7 in '16 pres) — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 5, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

with this map, the mean-median is still wide at 2.3 pts and the efficiency gap is at 7.9. the court could definitely still strike it down. but the court didn't set any standards for mean/median, efficiency gap. and i think a gambling GOP could at least argue it's good enough — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 5, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

it's a 9-5 map in 2020 pres (8-6 in Senate, 7-7 gov) with it has 2 CDs that barely voted for Trump, yielding 7-7 v. the statewide vote. the GOP could hope for a 10-4 outcome in '22. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 5, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

so at this point, i think this is the best sort of map the GOP can hope to get away with (not saying they would, given the court), but this is the best I think a gambling GOP could hope to pull off https://t.co/OUB9U3Aiwq — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 5, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@yeselson @notstevenwhite @mattyglesias totally (though some of the other people in the thread, ruffini for ex, said they'd be willing to limit gerrymandering in various ways). but my point is a narrow one, and i think it would hold regardless of the other side's politics — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 5, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@yeselson @notstevenwhite @mattyglesias all i'm saying that the hypocrisy charge contains a kernel of truth--there's something unusual here that explains why GOP tweeters are a little exasperated. i don't think it's 'genuinely confusing,' as yglesias said — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 5, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@yeselson @notstevenwhite @mattyglesias i'm not saying the democrats shouldn't do exactly what they're doing. earlier in the cycle, i noted they'd be in a stronger position to get reforms if they could gerrymander california and threaten mccarthy's seat — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 5, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@lionel_trolling download the old dos game war in russia — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 5, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@jamalgreene @mattyglesias and that is what i was trying to note in the original post--there's 'something' to the hypocrisy charge, it gets toward what's unusual here and helps make sense of why some GOP twitter is exasperated by it, even Dems counter that all is fair in love and war — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 5, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@jamalgreene @mattyglesias i think that's fair--in the warfighting analogy, i wouldn't call it hypocritical. and i haven't said the democrats are hypocritical. but the hypocrisy charge draws on a kernel of truth--a contradiction that's unusual in ordinary politics, even if the charge isn't quite right — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 5, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@notstevenwhite @yeselson @mattyglesias of course, but the point is that it's not simply about the level of badness, it's about the kind of badness--a badness that doesn't merely go against your values but something you think should be inviolable fundamental right. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 5, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@jamalgreene @mattyglesias idk if that really gets at it. if the SCOTUS had said it was simply legal, I think the point would still stand. being instrumental about something *you* think is a fundamental right is more akin to warfighting than usual politics — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 5, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@yeselson @mattyglesias and maybe that's what the GOP should have done. but clearly there's something unusual about the nature of the hard-ball when you violate purportedly inviolable rights like that v. three points or, more elections-related, choosing to accept large corporate donations/SuperPACs — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 5, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@yeselson @mattyglesias to take the analogy i've used a number of times: this would be kind of like the GOP choosing to impose Jim Crow-like voting restrictions in the North to disenfranchise immigrants, justified by checking the solid South, while holding out for national voting rights legislation — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 5, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@yeselson @mattyglesias i'm not saying they shouldn't do it--not at all. sometimes you choose to go to war. but this is not three pointers--it's different when fundamental rights are purportedly at stake. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 5, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@jamalgreene @mattyglesias Perhaps that's what they should have done--it might have worked out for the better! But one would have to admit there's something different about it — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 5, 2022
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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@jamalgreene @mattyglesias in elections, it would be more analogous to the GOP imposing literacy tests/poll taxes across the north to disenfranchise immigrants, justified by the Solid South--even as they simultaneously said they'd support federal voting rights. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 5, 2022