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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
I can come up with several reasons why, hypothetically, PA would be closer in the polls / closer on eday. Before I go into it, I want to be clear: I can come up with arguments the other way too--why PA could be Biden's best! And I am not arguing either way. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
I get asked about this a lot, and I agree with this take. But I also sometimes get asked a followup: could it be true, and if, it were true, why would it be true? https://t.co/j4AoW1lLbE — PolitiTweet.org
Dave Wasserman @Redistrict
One emerging narrative I’ve been skeptical of: “WI is still strong for Biden but PA is tightening.” A lot of state… https://t.co/Th03Cvp2m2
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
Then, the final catch! Some of these polls are actually a bit old. Only the PA poll is after the RNC. That's Trump's best poll of the bunch, but it's also the only poll that shows no change in the race Biden's support. So have fun with that — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
Before they had some of the strangest/worst education results I can remember, but now the question actually makes sense and so do the results https://t.co/FLwabQGxjI — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
That said! They now appear to be properly weighting by education, which would be expected to take a toll on Biden's lead a bit. So maybe this should be interpreted as no real change / the result should be taken more seriously than before — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
The catch is that the polls have a pretty solid Dem house effect so far this cycle, and on balance the results represent a modest dip in Biden's standing earlier in the month--let alone from earlier in the summer. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
One polling note today: a series of Hodas (R) polls show Biden doing quite well in MI/PA/WI, but there's a catch--and then... maybe another catch that undoes the catch. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
It begins https://t.co/VVl9Ig9tMC — PolitiTweet.org
Michael McDonald @ElectProject
Early vote update 9/4: 32 people have cast ballots for the 2020 general election in IL, NC, and SC
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
RT @christinezhang: 6/ Three pollsters who now weight by education — Chris Borick of @Muhlenberg, @mbpolisci of @UNFPORL, & @MikePNoble of… — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
@Redistrict @Barnes_Law @538politics @NateSilver538 @ForecasterEnten i think my main recollection of this guy is that he thought the early voting data in CA was good for republicans, which was really something — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
So far this year, Biden leads among Hispanic voters in Quinnipiac national polls by just 16 points, 50 to 34. Biden leads among Hispanic voters by twice as much in other national polls, 60 to 29 percent — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
dk. most of the national RDD polls are essentially interchangable in terms of their demographic tabs, but Quinnipiac is not. Fox and NBC/WSJ are RBS samples, and they may use quotas or make various choices that can risk some subgroup biases https://t.co/32VPYgorIO — PolitiTweet.org
Drord remains a Mississippi Stan Account @Polit_eurOpines
@Nate_Cohn why do you think this happens?
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
Quinnipiac, despite an overall left lean, has a GOP House effect on their Hispanic crosstab (though not their last FL poll, interestingly). There are lots of patterns like this out there: Fox never finds a large white education gap, for instance. https://t.co/4k0EInZZe1 — PolitiTweet.org
Dave Wasserman @Redistrict
Trump leading FL Hispanic likely voters 45%-43%, per @QuinnipiacPoll. Small sample, etc. but that would be a big ch… https://t.co/0hunmg18j9
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
RT @Redistrict: One emerging narrative I’ve been skeptical of: “WI is still strong for Biden but PA is tightening.” A lot of state polling… — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
Biden by 3 in FL and 8 in PA among LVs, according to new Quinnipiac polls. In theory it's a fine result for Biden, but the firm has been pretty left-leaning this year his average 5.5 point lead here is quite a bit weaker than his 10 point lead in their national poll — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
I should note that it is possible that Trump has made real gains in PA. There was a Muhlenberg poll with Biden+4 in PA pre-convention, for instance. That's big if true. But with so little recent polling, the national poll-based prior still suggests Biden's *probably ok* still — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
It starts to make that PA poll yesterday look like something of a mini-outlier? Not a statistcal outlier--maybe it's only a couple of points off the 'average,' if we could have one. But one that, taken in isolation, depicts a meaningfully different picture. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
Biden by 2 in NC, according to Monmouth. A solid result for Biden that's pretty consistent with those 7-8 point national leads. Not even vastly different than Fox. https://t.co/emavFhgzaT — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
If the Monmouth NC poll is good for Biden, I think we can *probably* say the PA poll was something of a mini-outlier. Not an outlier in any statistical sense--maybe just a point or two--but enough to matter for interpretive purposes, given the sensitivity of the overall picture — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
Other than the Fox polls, most of the post-convention battleground state polls are pretty meh for Biden. Of course, most of them are pretty meh in quality--except Monmouth PA. As a result, I'll be really curious to see this NC poll from Monmouth. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
Part of the issue is that we weren't even *super* clear on where Biden stood in the tipping points, before the RNC. I think it was quite clear he had a big, meaty lead in June. By mid-August? I don't know. We just didn't have many polls. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
At this point, I think it's pretty clear that Biden's national lead is pretty intact, at least with respect to where it stood before the convention. The big question, IMO, is just where exactly he stands in the Electoral College tipping points. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
RT @freedlander: Rick Snyder, GOP gov of Michigan from 2011-2019 days he is voting for Biden: “Donald Trump is a bully who lacks a moral co… — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
It's been a big day of polls, and Biden closes it out strong: --Fox has Biden up by 8 and 9 in WI, AZ, up 4 in NC, all among LVs. --CNN/SSRS has Biden up 8 among national RVs. Quinnipiac with Biden up 10 among LVs. Other than Monmouth, not many signs of a big shift post-RNC. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
Biden+9 in AZ, Biden+8 in WI, Biden+4 in AZ, according to new Fox News surveys of likely voters. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
Two more national polls this afternoon: CNN/SSRS is Biden+8 among RVs; Quinnipiac is Biden+10 among LVs. Not really a shift from either poll https://t.co/0VXt0Ulsmg — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
Now, obviously, if we got ten polls of PA/WI/MI or whatever and the average is Biden+2.5 then that won't be true anymore. But that's not where we're at right now. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
I think we have one serious state poll: an N=400 state poll showing Biden running 5 points behind the US in a state where Clinton ran 3 points behind the US. That's not material, given the number of polls and the N https://t.co/Z3hHS9lerw — PolitiTweet.org
Paul Ryan's Mustache @PaulRyansStache
@Nate_Cohn Nate, do you think there’s a significant disconnect between national and state polls?
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
@benyt @EricLevitz maybe an evening edition, too. — PolitiTweet.org
Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn
@benyt @EricLevitz i would opt into a world where twitter did not exist and i could just wait until the next morning before I received a document containing a summary of all of yesterday's polls — PolitiTweet.org