Nate Cohn

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He offers a few possible actions Congress might consider: --ensure paper balloting --fix the electoral count act --impose basic safeguards on vote counting --support local election administration — PolitiTweet.org

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Important @rickhasen piece on the growing danger of election subversion, which has been painfully overlooked in recent months https://t.co/EXzG6qXQT0 — PolitiTweet.org

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@mattyglesias is that to say you think it's the biggest threat in itself, and therefore the biggest threat is already being realized, or is that because you think it risks legitimacy crises, secessionist blue states and so on — PolitiTweet.org

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@jonathanchait @davidshor @mattyglesias @CharlesFLehman but that's the problem with the plan, to your mind: whether it has established majoritarian democratic legitimacy, not whether it ought to be imposed should majority sentiment call for it — PolitiTweet.org

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@sean_domnick @davidshor @jbarro we have an ec/pv gap because that expectation didn't work out at all over the last eight years, w democrats making huge gains in tx/ca while losing ground in swing states — PolitiTweet.org

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@davidshor @jbarro or put differently, you've put yourself in the odd place of saying 'biden would be favored to win reelection if he had done worse in tx/ca, etc.' — PolitiTweet.org

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@davidshor @jbarro at a certain point, do you wonder whether the DV should switch to margin in the tipping-point state, not the margin in the popular vote? There's no way to distinguish whether the EC/PV gap should be thought of as excess red/blue state strength or battleground state weakness — PolitiTweet.org

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@davidshor @mattyglesias @CharlesFLehman it certainly has no chance. but let me put it this way: if there were 275 david shors commanding a majority of the house, senate, presidency, would they do it? — PolitiTweet.org

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@davidshor @mattyglesias @CharlesFLehman it certainly has no chance. but let me put it this way: if there were 275 david shors commanding a majority of the house, senate, presidency, would they do it? — PolitiTweet.org

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@davidshor @mattyglesias @CharlesFLehman and just to be clear, by support i mean: do you think democrats should propose this today? (as opposed to supporting it in principle) i assume you'd agree, for instance, that it carries some risk of secessionism or civil war — PolitiTweet.org

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@davidshor @mattyglesias @CharlesFLehman do you support it? — PolitiTweet.org

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@davidshor @mattyglesias @CharlesFLehman that would do it! — PolitiTweet.org

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@elkmovie @mattyglesias @CharlesFLehman or else you can credibly threaten secession and hope that causes republican/small states to compromise — PolitiTweet.org

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@elkmovie @mattyglesias @CharlesFLehman yes, that would probably be the end goal--though that might require another 20-40 states — PolitiTweet.org

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@HumphreyBohun @mattyglesias @CharlesFLehman it is quite possible that the discussion would conclude it's a bad idea or not worth the risk of civil war, and so on — PolitiTweet.org

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@EricHuebner1 @mattyglesias @CharlesFLehman in the scheme of abolishing the senate? yes. but even this limited plan needs democratic governors/state legislatures in WV, ND, SD, so I'm not sure this would be the proposal — PolitiTweet.org

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@mattyglesias @CharlesFLehman fwiw i'd would read a discussion of an actual plan to send the senate the way of the house of lords, as opposed to a slight tweak in balance of power framed as an effort to give representation to folks — PolitiTweet.org

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A lot of cheering and honking here in Harlem. Not quite Biden's victory or the peak of the nightly hospital applause, but surely louder than anything else — PolitiTweet.org

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@PoliticsWolf i like your map, though it does have a GOP-favored 9% efficiency gap and a net-9 point mean-median gap! — PolitiTweet.org

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@SeanTrende @cwarshaw that's a nice way to make sense of it, though of course i do think there are some valid local concerns out there! maybe most of all, it's a reminder of how much messier it is to deal with congressional gerrymandering by evaluating every map by state — PolitiTweet.org

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@SeanTrende @cwarshaw it's an interesting twist. and it's a nice example how evaluating congressional maps by state really makes this harder — PolitiTweet.org

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@cwarshaw @SeanTrende of all the measures, the efficiency gap makes the most sense to me. but fwiw compactness / packing-cracking limitations could plausibly be imposed statutorily; it's just that no one (except ordinary citizens) cares about it — PolitiTweet.org

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@cwarshaw @SeanTrende of all the measures, the efficiency gap makes the most sense to me. but fwiw compactness / packing-cracking limitations could plausibly be imposed statutorily and without quantitative restrictions; it's just that no one (except ordinary citizens) cares about it — PolitiTweet.org

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@gelliottmorris I understand that critique. I don't accept it, as there is a slight difference between using sectarianism as a lens to helps explain the threat to democracy and simply advancing an argument about the threat to democracy and i think the former is entirely justifiable — PolitiTweet.org

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@gelliottmorris i can understand that critique to an extent, but I don't accept it if the article explains sectarianism as a way to make sense of all sorts of things going on in the world--all the way down to silly dr. seuss--not just the threat to democracy — PolitiTweet.org

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@gelliottmorris i think the piece is quite clear about which party winds up posing the threat to democracy under this framework — PolitiTweet.org

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@JMGreene28 @gelliottmorris no, it's a way to tell one coherent story with many parts, not a way to assert that every element is identical — PolitiTweet.org

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@gelliottmorris it's a construct that fits both 'affective polarization' and 'anti-democratic gop' into one overarching framework. there's no competition between threats — PolitiTweet.org

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@ParkerMolloy it also involves totally justifiable hostility, like Irish not wanting to live under in the UK after centuries of English colonial rule, etc. — PolitiTweet.org

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@ParkerMolloy again, sectarianism involves the two sides thinking the other is immoral; it does not require any equivalency in terms of their justification. and given that it's most famous in religious contexts, it often involves totally incoherent, irrational and senseless cases! — PolitiTweet.org