Nate Cohn

Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

the article version of that, at 5am on election night https://t.co/TmBVmHpQ8E — PolitiTweet.org

Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

I wouldn't go so far as to say that I regret that we didn't publish it, but... there was another https://t.co/RstBpxnrlu — PolitiTweet.org

Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@shearm the needle has been an unmatched journalistic tool for some of the most important news stories of the last decade. it basically broke scooped the world on trump winning in '16, biden in '20, and, perhaps to a lesser extent, dem control of the senate. — PolitiTweet.org

Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

If there's any good news: the Virginia results are extremely easy to scrape and they're detailed--even offering results by absentee method for the first time, as opposed to one central abs precinct. So it'll be trivial to quickly get a good grip on what's happening — PolitiTweet.org

Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

And while I was planning on running it locally on my computer and tweeting it out, even that's in doubt at the moment. unfortunately we've had a horrible dog medical emergency this week and I just haven't had any opportunity to prepare something — PolitiTweet.org

Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

Sadly, no Virginia needle! There ought to be one, I know. But our staffing isn't set up for it at the moment https://t.co/N1sud6hbdZ — PolitiTweet.org

Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

Though to be fair, Democrats have won some nail-biters too https://t.co/b0AfzJ7QnV — PolitiTweet.org

Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

Though to be fair, Democrats have gotten some won some nail-biters too https://t.co/EsJlZVwucC — PolitiTweet.org

Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

https://t.co/DpdRIz9yTA https://t.co/Ui3fkezD3t — PolitiTweet.org

Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

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Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

https://t.co/4gzuUUutnf https://t.co/60ADCH2Go1 — PolitiTweet.org

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RT @HotlineJosh: Fairfax County to Change Vote Reporting Order on Election Night – NBC4 Washington https://t.co/amY79JNAOa — PolitiTweet.org

Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@kwcollins @mattyglesias indeed; it is not — PolitiTweet.org

Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@kwcollins @mattyglesias or less generously: an undefended assertion. but whether it's for strategic progressive v. moderate or other reasons, there's no doubt that the report is absolutely not happy about winning by persuading white voters; m.y. is right that there's a deliberate effort to downplay it https://t.co/fLZiP6pCaD — PolitiTweet.org

Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@kwcollins @mattyglesias maybe i missed that distinction, but i read it as about democrats — PolitiTweet.org

Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@kwcollins @mattyglesias i think that's true--and banal--but i think it is also fair to read it contextually as: 'mobilization is the path to power, but unfortunately persuasion too bc it turns out we have issues' — PolitiTweet.org

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@kwcollins @mattyglesias but i do think matt y is fair to note that the report plainly really wanted to make the argument that mobilization was the key--that turnout chart being a fair example--even as it kind of simultaneously had to backtrack in the face of electoral reality — PolitiTweet.org

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@kwcollins @mattyglesias the only thing that i thought clearly and consistently animated the report was some version of 'nonwhite voters matter too,' as a matter of both persuasion and mobilization — PolitiTweet.org

Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@kwcollins @mattyglesias yeah i found the report/article to be fairly incoherent--perhaps reflecting how trump's gains undermined what might have been their preferred pitch--rather than a simple '14 style mobilization pitch — PolitiTweet.org

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@IBD_ECarson https://t.co/OAe9PCT0qp — PolitiTweet.org

Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@IBD_ECarson https://t.co/10YwFiNZtP — PolitiTweet.org

Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

i think that possibility is imaginable, but that will depend on the right heads, too. to close the circle: i don't think dave chappelle will be voting restore the habsburgs https://t.co/7gliUOKwqj — PolitiTweet.org

Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

in all seriousness, I do think the various iconoclastic, anti-new-new left brands on substack really do parallel the various 'old left' dissenting voices against the 'new left' in the 60s/70s, many of which ultimately transitioned to the right/neoconservatism — PolitiTweet.org

Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

some would say it largely succeeded from appx 1968 to 2003 https://t.co/FntDfeSYPD — PolitiTweet.org

Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

To take the extreme case, a similar storyliine--where conservatism is renewed in part by an influx of people disillusioned with the new-new left--could wind up being isolationist this time around, the opposite of the last neoconservatism! — PolitiTweet.org

Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

A lot of people seem to have missed the point here: neoconservatism is the *precedent* for a renewed brand of fundamentally liberal conservatism that succeeded in defeating a 'new left.' A 'neo-neoconservatism' might be very different in substance https://t.co/ClyHQJs4B9 — PolitiTweet.org

Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@HeerJeet in this article, it is quite clear that what the conservatives admire about orban is that he uses the power of the state to shape the culture, with the twin goals of checking the woke/left and liberal/individualism/neoliberalism more general — PolitiTweet.org

Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@HeerJeet any kind of conservative can, potentially, be the basis for minority rule with our system. that's a possible--even likely--*means* to achieve some kind of possible goal, whether it's neoliberal or conservative — PolitiTweet.org

Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@HeerJeet that's not what's distinct about orbanism. in fact, it's not orbanist at all--that's my point. what's distinct about orbanism is using the power of the state, however obtained, to try and advance a conservative culture that owns the libs — PolitiTweet.org

Nate Cohn @Nate_Cohn

@HeerJeet my point, though, is that winning as a minority does not make you a majority culture. instituting Orban-like policies--say, banning some gender studies programs or whatever--will not create a conservative national culture — PolitiTweet.org