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Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
@jeffseibert @thedextriarchy I think that’s the excuse documentary filmmakers too often give themselves to avoid really reckoning with the material. Their whole criticism is that social media manipulates us through fear and outrage — and then the film adopts identical tactics and throws away all the nuance — PolitiTweet.org
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
@jeffseibert @thedextriarchy You make a lot of great points in the movie, as do the other folks interviewed. But overall I found the argument to be really blinkered and sensationalized. — PolitiTweet.org
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
Note-perfect review of The Social Dilemma here from @thedextriarchy https://t.co/fliqak5dgR https://t.co/bczEhabP97 — PolitiTweet.org
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
I was not emotionally prepared for the fictional trio of evil social network engineers designing bespoke push notifications to destroy humanity in the Social Dilemma — PolitiTweet.org
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
@Jakewk @isaach truly. it has become such a cliche that I was not prepared to find a case in which it was absolutely true — PolitiTweet.org
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
@lizkelley wait so this totally useful, logical flow for editing and re-posting a tweet is a *bug*???? strains credulity https://t.co/JX3365l4ro — PolitiTweet.org
Andrea Kuszewski 🧠 @AndreaKuszewski
@CaseyNewton So, I deleted the tweet immediately, and this is what happened (recorded the screen) https://t.co/OTEImYRhIT
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
@isaaccp thank GOD — PolitiTweet.org
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
@isaaccp what! — PolitiTweet.org
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
@AndreaKuszewski fascinating, thank you! — PolitiTweet.org
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
@VanditaMWilson that warms my heart! thank you. — PolitiTweet.org
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
@gasca *3 — PolitiTweet.org
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 — PolitiTweet.org
Star Simpson @starsandrobots
OMG I think I just edited a tweet?? I wrote a tweet, noticed a benign single-letter typo, deleted the tweet and pre… https://t.co/efz2mzBZeP
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
@RemixCity without *any* algorithm? sure. but there will be an algorithm — PolitiTweet.org
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
@sudousrcode it also has the user base and the content, to name two other super important things! — PolitiTweet.org
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
@JeffWPa Reels is one month old — PolitiTweet.org
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
In related news, I basically cannot imagine a more nightmarish culture fit for TikTok than Larry Ellison's Oracle https://t.co/tqfq01g78S — PolitiTweet.org
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
@harsht i’m not saying it isn’t a necessary feature of the platform. i’m saying that it’s not the thing that’s currently the real value in the product — PolitiTweet.org
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
@thomasballard Facebook and YouTube have algorithms. So why didn’t they invent TikTok? — PolitiTweet.org
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
@Carnage4Life @fmanjoo I’d wager TikTok has enough momentum now that it can coast on that until its recommendations are better than good enough. Users will watch TikToks long enough for the algorithm to recreate itself — PolitiTweet.org
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
@SBienkowski @Kantrowitz @fmanjoo yeah but I just think some of this stuff only needs to get invented once. once it’s out there, it can be copied. again, THE ALGORITHM is just a ranking of statistical probabilities. it’s not a magic spell — PolitiTweet.org
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
@rising so if I just gave you their algorithm you could grow it from scratch? — PolitiTweet.org
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
@Carnage4Life @fmanjoo no one has been able to grow a network as big as TikTok since FB. they struck a goldmine and there’s not an obvious way to replicate it, other than just Reels-style cloning — PolitiTweet.org
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
@Kantrowitz @fmanjoo Sure, but also YouTube does this? I think that the algorithm could be 50 percent worse for a year and you could still keep most of your user base / engagement just based on current momentum — PolitiTweet.org
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
@Carnage4Life @fmanjoo I’d argue that’s more of an effect of the network and the creation tools than the sorting mechanism — PolitiTweet.org
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
@Richardw55 @RothsReviews Reels is 10 minutes old — PolitiTweet.org
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
@fmanjoo i am not such a person but @kantrowitz is — PolitiTweet.org
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
@karissabe sorry but this it twitter. nuanced positions are not allowed — PolitiTweet.org
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
@Richardw55 @RothsReviews that assumes that every network is the same. TikTok built a different kind of *network*, and so the algorithm feels better than others. But it starts with the content. FB/IG/TWTR don’t have what TikTok does — PolitiTweet.org
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
@RothsReviews aren’t people over-estimating how hard it is to build a new algorithm? it’s just math we’re talking about — PolitiTweet.org
Casey Newton @CaseyNewton
Total disagreement on my timeline right now as to whether the value of TikTok is 100 percent in its algorithm, or 100 percent in its user base. Where do you land? (I'm more and more convinced that it's the user base) [POLL] — PolitiTweet.org
