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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

🪦 https://t.co/COALS7ZNhC — PolitiTweet.org

Gigi Levangie, etc. @GigiLevangie

Peter Thiel's going to join up with Elon and then we're all dead, even the survivors of net neutrality, RIP.

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

And document creation/editing software: https://t.co/SwznOx6bSr https://t.co/fNSZE7JWfW — PolitiTweet.org

Marc Andreessen @pmarca

I predict essentially identical censorship/deplatforming policies across all layers of the legacy Internet stack. C… https://t.co/BQv8hZpCaX

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

I predict essentially identical censorship/deplatforming policies across all layers of the legacy Internet stack. C… https://t.co/BQv8hZpCaX — PolitiTweet.org

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

It’s… interesting watching Amazon censor certain books and not others. System not yet in equilibrium. https://t.co/P5RagDecR2 — PolitiTweet.org

Keith Rabois @rabois

@pmarca Fairly well established standards for books, not sure why we can’t easily adopt those.

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

Gmail filters spam, but not political content. Yet. https://t.co/Pitnr7Yn2V — PolitiTweet.org

. @BarneyFlames

@pmarca Best example of this is how Gmail probably has the best spam filters in the world, yet I have never seen an… https://t.co/zxJqFdGCdP

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

A common Internet content policy is: X-ism is banned, but false accusations of X-ism are not banned. What does that tell us? — PolitiTweet.org

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

As @JonHaidt says, "morality binds and blinds". And morality is political, therefore politics binds and blinds. Esc… https://t.co/fSlChEK1zp — PolitiTweet.org

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

This is how so many of these speech disputes go. The main question is not truth or falsehood or etc., it's whether… https://t.co/juvg9vr3JV — PolitiTweet.org

Marc Andreessen @pmarca

When Trump was in office, the COVID lab leak theory was viewed as anti-China and therefore pro-Trump xenophobic mis… https://t.co/JwEeyNuiXX

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

When Trump was in office, the COVID lab leak theory was viewed as anti-China and therefore pro-Trump xenophobic mis… https://t.co/JwEeyNuiXX — PolitiTweet.org

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

Thank you to @yishan for being so willing to air these difficult issues in public and for being so honest and forth… https://t.co/FEibGUeNik — PolitiTweet.org

Paul Graham @paulg

I read @yishan's thread about Twitter and agree, as I think anyone who's run a forum would, that Elon is "in for a… https://t.co/imIPOH6cec

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

Interestingly, the knitting communities have also become intensely political; see https://t.co/AKLNRvdgtO https://t.co/mRI5lpj78m — PolitiTweet.org

Yishan @yishan

People will always, always, ALWAYS get into a heated debate about something. If you have a knitting community, the… https://t.co/QYB1W7E6PE

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

Totally disagree. The issues of spam and political censorship are orthogonal, and everyone knows it. https://t.co/bO60lzYkms — PolitiTweet.org

Yishan @yishan

But that is the archetype for every subsequent Omega Event that follows where the social platform has to restrict o… https://t.co/hpDHHjOeRz

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

Nobody argues about censoring spam. https://t.co/InFaFNyOVx — PolitiTweet.org

Yishan @yishan

And of course your users hate it, so you ban it. Boom, you just violated free speech. But it's just spam, everyone… https://t.co/kMErOEIntn

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

đź‘€ https://t.co/ILx97ZPHg6 — PolitiTweet.org

Yishan @yishan

The fact that employees of social media platforms are loud and proud about their political leanings is a red herring.

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

I agree with this. The issues get very intense and very complicated, and there is no absolutist free speech positio… https://t.co/sRst1QHaWJ — PolitiTweet.org

Yishan @yishan

But - and this is the important thing - these events have NO CEILING. There will eventually come an event that is… https://t.co/AlIITgBFod

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

This is true. https://t.co/FwqV6710Ep — PolitiTweet.org

Yishan @yishan

And that becomes a PRACTICAL, potentially EXISTENTIAL problem. And you, the platform, will have to make a choice.

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

The crux of the issue of free speech. How thoroughly do you need to suppress speech to eliminate the risk of any un… https://t.co/1XFRUAq26G — PolitiTweet.org

Yishan @yishan

And then those people are going to engage in Real Atoms actions. Maybe they're just going to harm other people els… https://t.co/cn4rRSofpT

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

Oh no, that isn't true at all. https://t.co/qiiWZJOhdw — PolitiTweet.org

Yishan @yishan

Content and participants (users) are the MOST VALUABLE THING on social platforms! Platforms don't like to threaten them unless they have to!

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

It's the content and the participants. https://t.co/rFxhhAHTPd — PolitiTweet.org

Yishan @yishan

It's the behavior, not the content, or the participants. But the most common mistake people make is thinking that… https://t.co/7yXN9OJ1Xw

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

The political salience of the lab leak theory evaporated after Trump left office. It was no longer useful for estab… https://t.co/vOKnrwWJOi — PolitiTweet.org

Yishan @yishan

Today, the lab leak theory isn't censored. And I will venture that, while there is still anti-Asian violence and a… https://t.co/cOABHsC7ux

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

The main problem with the lab leak theory was that Trump was anti-China and the lab leak theory was anti-China and… https://t.co/nLtZN1LuNR — PolitiTweet.org

Yishan @yishan

The fact that some supposed authority "discredited" the theory is much less relevant than the behavior the idea was prompting.

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

This is not true at all. https://t.co/jTg7wYiqgC — PolitiTweet.org

Yishan @yishan

A better way of putting this is "if it were being discussed in a calm, polite manner on Twitter." It's the behavio… https://t.co/1kOoG2BrPA

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

This is true. https://t.co/J50I6uxHdM — PolitiTweet.org

Paul Graham @paulg

That's why people on the far right keep starting lame Twitter alternatives. You don't see people on the far left do… https://t.co/VvwAaZFNjH

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

This is true. https://t.co/3iTI0MOjFG — PolitiTweet.org

Paul Graham @paulg

The combination of (a) the left's recent focus on banning heretical ideas, (b) the leftward lean of tech companies… https://t.co/NxjILW9L4r

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

This is true. https://t.co/rPuE43jXQy — PolitiTweet.org

Paul Graham @paulg

Plus tech companies in general, and especially Twitter, lean to the left. Imagine walking around Twitter pre-Covid.… https://t.co/m8V2H4cjnz

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

This is true. https://t.co/EtcczjNPoS — PolitiTweet.org

Paul Graham @paulg

It used to be that censorship was something the right did, and free speech was something the left were in favor of.… https://t.co/vqr6vOvdhg

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

This is true. https://t.co/AltyTLvoSP — PolitiTweet.org

Paul Graham @paulg

Where I think he's mistaken is his claim that the left and right both want to ban each other roughly equally. Among… https://t.co/ipqBgYdkZV

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

This is true. There will be pain of some kind. But you still get to pick which form of pain. https://t.co/j5EYz1c1YK — PolitiTweet.org

Yishan @yishan

Let me be clear: if you run a large social network, you will be forced by inexorable circumstance to censor certain… https://t.co/MZKjX3mHNo

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

What gets censored definitely has very little to do with what is true or false, I agree with that. https://t.co/H3S0ME7Ywl — PolitiTweet.org

Yishan @yishan

What they censor has little to do with what is true or false. It has a little bit to do with whatever the current p… https://t.co/nKOpedGU6d

Posted April 16, 2022
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Marc Andreessen @pmarca

This is not true. It is often very much about whether certain ideas are good or bad -- more specifically, political… https://t.co/wsSs0ZJlt0 — PolitiTweet.org

Yishan @yishan

And it's not because certain ideas are good or bad, or true or false. It has to do purely with operational issues… https://t.co/JZzbaJA8y1

Posted April 16, 2022