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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Not when the nerve referred to is persisting in making statements contrary to observable facts. @fatuoustec. — PolitiTweet.org

Fatuous Tec @FatuousTec

@Mr_Andrew_Fox @ClarkeMicah “Paratroopers are famous for their nerve”. Has to be the reply of the day.

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

2/2 @mr_andrew_fox Of course *you* may be looking for justifications for the Russian invasion, in which case that is *your* problem. But it is not mine if you abuse and delibertaley misunderstand my arguments in this way. I think you had better go now. — PolitiTweet.org

Andrew Fox @Mr_Andrew_Fox

Because, @ClarkeMicah, your entire earlier post has *the effect* of justifying Russia’s actions. You are making th… https://t.co/XIdONa50c1

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

1/2 .@mr_andrew_fox. No, the only way that it could have such an aim or effect would be if I had stated that aim. As I have been saying for more than a year that the invasion was a disgusting, crazy lawless action, that cannot be be so. — PolitiTweet.org

Andrew Fox @Mr_Andrew_Fox

Because, @ClarkeMicah, your entire earlier post has *the effect* of justifying Russia’s actions. You are making th… https://t.co/XIdONa50c1

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

I operate what I call the presumption of intelligence, @mr_andrew_fox. I will debate with anyone who responds reasonably, honestly and thoughtfully. But once I conclude that my opponent has no intention of doing these things, I think ad hominem both justified and necessary . — PolitiTweet.org

Andrew Fox @Mr_Andrew_Fox

Well, you’re clearly more au fait with ad hominem fallacy than I am, @ClarkeMicah. Posting an entire article blami… https://t.co/e82rA0pO67

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@mr_andrew_fox . I see no figures or methodology here. Are they saying that in 2017 a Kiev-based organisation polled Donetsk, Lugansk and Crimea? — PolitiTweet.org

Andrew Fox @Mr_Andrew_Fox

@ClarkeMicah https://t.co/P48hr6rK2v It was cross-Ukraine polling, with lower scores for joining NATO in the south… https://t.co/hco7EpTyfd

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

4/4..@mr_andrew_fox How *anyone* of any sense cannot see that a violent, foreign-backed putsch against an elected government disenfranchises the voters, I cannot tell. When you have let me know, I'll resume. — PolitiTweet.org

Andrew Fox @Mr_Andrew_Fox

1/3 Paratroopers are famous for their nerve, @ClarkeMicah. The Euromaidan is absolutely irrelevant to Russia’s cur… https://t.co/j8TA1zkW0u

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

3/4 .@mr_andrew_fox. Much of that propaganda involves pretences that Ukraine is a proper free, law-governed country, a saint among nations, when in fact it is remarkably similar to Russia, a corrupt and unfree mess. — PolitiTweet.org

Andrew Fox @Mr_Andrew_Fox

1/3 Paratroopers are famous for their nerve, @ClarkeMicah. The Euromaidan is absolutely irrelevant to Russia’s cur… https://t.co/j8TA1zkW0u

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

2/4 .@mr_andrew_fox The events of 2014 are very much the business of UK citizens, who are being propagandised into a European war which endangers them and their homes for no discernible reason. — PolitiTweet.org

Andrew Fox @Mr_Andrew_Fox

1/3 Paratroopers are famous for their nerve, @ClarkeMicah. The Euromaidan is absolutely irrelevant to Russia’s cur… https://t.co/j8TA1zkW0u

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

1/4 .@mr_andrew_fox In my experience, real combat soldiers don't go on about it. Whatever you did, or jumped out of, your reading and comprehension skills are startlingly poor. Look carrefully now: I...am...not....trying....to....justify...the....Russian... Invasion.Clear now? 🔬 — PolitiTweet.org

Andrew Fox @Mr_Andrew_Fox

1/3 Paratroopers are famous for their nerve, @ClarkeMicah. The Euromaidan is absolutely irrelevant to Russia’s cur… https://t.co/j8TA1zkW0u

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Yes .@mrcfromc, I did, and if anyone had paid any attention then it would have worked. But the chance long ago passed. — PolitiTweet.org

Mr C🇬🇧GSTK🇨🇦🇦🇺🇳🇿CANZUK @MrCfromC

@MattChr83 @KEdge23 Peter Hitchens said the same many years ago

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

2/2 @tryingtolearn. Moral rightness is of course easier for religious persons, who believe (as I do) that they are governed by an unalterable set of divine laws. But everyone else is a bit stuck. I should have thought all this was evident. — PolitiTweet.org

TryingToUnderstand @Trying0Learn

@ClarkeMicah @Steve_in_TO Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah, I’ve seen you say this before as well as telling people who… https://t.co/4BOFlKe2QA

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

1/2 @tryingtolearn. If someone is arguing about facts, he can be demonstrably right or wrong. If two people who share a moral position argue about the morailty of an action, one can be wrong (or both) . But opinions on most things vary and no *opinion* is necessarily *right* . . — PolitiTweet.org

TryingToUnderstand @Trying0Learn

@ClarkeMicah @Steve_in_TO Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah, I’ve seen you say this before as well as telling people who… https://t.co/4BOFlKe2QA

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

3/3 .@mr_andrew_fox . Can you name the 2017 poll of which you speak, provide a link to it, and tell me if it was conducted throughout the territory of Ukraine, as established in 1991? — PolitiTweet.org

Andrew Fox @Mr_Andrew_Fox

@Faded_Memory_78 @WilliamYearnor @ClarkeMicah 2017 polls had 69% of Ukrainians in favour of joining NATO. This who… https://t.co/CZyw928Ysa

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

2/3 @mr_andrew_fox You *know* I do not seek to justify Russia's equally reprehensible actions. Why then do you keep repeating this false charge? Do you not understand the primacy of truthfulness in civilisation? — PolitiTweet.org

Andrew Fox @Mr_Andrew_Fox

@Faded_Memory_78 @WilliamYearnor @ClarkeMicah 2017 polls had 69% of Ukrainians in favour of joining NATO. This who… https://t.co/CZyw928Ysa

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

1/3 .@mr_andrew_fox. You have a nerve. The forehgn-backed violent lawless overthrow of Ukraine's elected government most certainly *disenfranchised* Ukrainian sovereignty and also split the country. And you waver between condoning it or pretending it didn't happen. — PolitiTweet.org

Andrew Fox @Mr_Andrew_Fox

@Faded_Memory_78 @WilliamYearnor @ClarkeMicah 2017 polls had 69% of Ukrainians in favour of joining NATO. This who… https://t.co/CZyw928Ysa

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Fear destroyed the senses of humour of millions in 2020, or they might have paid more attention to this brilliantly satirical 2010 Simpsons episode https://t.co/eD2pN5VO1h (mentioned in my Mail on Sunday Column, now available through Mailplus https://t.co/z7C6I1jlrv — PolitiTweet.org

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Worth watching just for the shots of the undelightful Oleh Tiahnybok posing beside Joe Biden, Victoria Nuland and John McCain abt 38 mins) , this is a fascinating film about Ukrainian politics. No wonder the Ukrainian Embassy in Paris didn't like it . https://t.co/lzWwnT6Ujy — PolitiTweet.org

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

You mean, .@Steve_in_TO that you agree with .mr_andrew_fox. This is not necessarily the same thing. — PolitiTweet.org

Steve Rowe @Steve_in_TO

@ClarkeMicah @Mr_Andrew_Fox Andrew Fox is right

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Interesting if a bit creepy, @aodanhill.Please define 'Russophile'. — PolitiTweet.org

Aodán Hill ⨁ @aodanhill

European right-wingers should excommunicate Russophiles within their ranks regardless of its impact on electability… https://t.co/FCnOc1bSVL

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

The opening page, discreetly censored, of my new book about grammar schools ‘A Revolution Betrayed’ . Signed copies may be ordered from Blackwell’s in Oxford, 01865 792792. https://t.co/QZ4ROHTasm — PolitiTweet.org

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Reaping history’s bitter harvest in Ukraine https://t.co/saa8BQVTBR via @ipoliticsca — PolitiTweet.org

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@nottycurs What is your point? AS you rightly say., cars are (regrettably in my view) legal for mass use and private ownership. Marijuana is not, and there is a campaign to change that, which I oppose (just as I'd oppose the legalisation of cars if it were being proposed now) — PolitiTweet.org

Bequalmed @NottyCurs

@ClarkeMicah Wait ‘til you see the road accident fatalities. And cars are legal ! s/

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

3/3 .@mr_andrew_fox. Do you believe that supporting and condoning the lawless and violent overthrow of a sovereign country's legitimate, elected president is not an act of aggression? There must be a naivety pandemic raging. — PolitiTweet.org

Andrew Fox @Mr_Andrew_Fox

@ClarkeMicah This misses the point. If sovereign nations wish to join a military alliance, that is entirely a matte… https://t.co/arBHS0n0AL

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

2/3 .@mr_andrew_fox If Mexico joined a military allaince with Russia or China, what *do* you think would happen? NATO ceased long ago to be defensive, btw, bombing Serbia and Libya proactively. Please read : https://t.co/suGTXqDlJa — PolitiTweet.org

Andrew Fox @Mr_Andrew_Fox

@ClarkeMicah This misses the point. If sovereign nations wish to join a military alliance, that is entirely a matte… https://t.co/arBHS0n0AL

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

1/3 Do you not read well, @mr_andrew_fox? I do not seek to justify or mitigate the Russian invasion, which I condemn. It is a foolish lie to suggest otherwise. Do you really believe that' If sovereign nations wish to join a military alliance, that is entirely a matter for them? — PolitiTweet.org

Andrew Fox @Mr_Andrew_Fox

@ClarkeMicah This misses the point. If sovereign nations wish to join a military alliance, that is entirely a matte… https://t.co/arBHS0n0AL

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

RT @ChimeWhistle: @ClarkeMicah In the 50s there were two politicians (both became mayors) who worked in Stafford number 5 signal box. Such… — PolitiTweet.org

Posted March 4, 2023 Retweet
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@chimewhistle. Why wouldn't politicians be dim? Is there any other trade so unprotected by examination and skills barriers, and so wide open to chancers and bluffers, whose rewards can be so great for so little? — PolitiTweet.org

Chime Whistle Publishing @ChimeWhistle

@ClarkeMicah I'm sure most politicians don't believe (or even understand) half of what comes out of their mouths. H… https://t.co/sGpEYyd0rt

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@chimewhistle. By not paying attention when the hollowed-out parties were taken over by careerists, and by cntinuing to vote for such people when they should have abstained en masse. — PolitiTweet.org

Chime Whistle Publishing @ChimeWhistle

@ClarkeMicah @mailplus One can't help but feel that ministers actually enjoyed exercising new draconian powers – al… https://t.co/HMg4QaDqpP

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Oh well, .@badsmellz, that's tragic. But I'm unsure quite how you can have reached your damning conclusion when, thanks to your sad phone, you haven't actually read it. Nice hanging out with you, dude. — PolitiTweet.org

Badsmellz @badsmellz

@ClarkeMicah I've tried to get through this a couple of times, but the poor typography makes it very hard to read a… https://t.co/7nNRQ4wgrF

Posted March 4, 2023
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Oh well, @badsmellz, that's tragic. But I'm unsure quite how you can have reached your damning conclusion when, thanks to your sad phone, you haven't actually read it. Nice hanging out with you, dude. — PolitiTweet.org

Badsmellz @badsmellz

@ClarkeMicah I've tried to get through this a couple of times, but the poor typography makes it very hard to read a… https://t.co/7nNRQ4wgrF

Posted March 4, 2023 Just a Typo