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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
@michaelrosenyes. I agree with Brian Simon about the problems with IQ(he was undoubtedly right) though I also acceโฆ https://t.co/QbKfFlQMOB — PolitiTweet.org
Michael Rosen ๐๐๐๐ @MichaelRosenYes
@ClarkeMicah Brian Simon's research was on the 11-plus and the non-validity and non-reliability of IQ. Refer us toโฆ https://t.co/VBTPfP0XuF
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
@michaelrosenyes. So no evidence is needed for it? Once again, in the view of @michaelrosenyes, 'everybody knew' soโฆ https://t.co/y4rvu3vqYA — PolitiTweet.org
Michael Rosen ๐๐๐๐ @MichaelRosenYes
@ClarkeMicah @JamieHobson3 What? Were you awake in the 50s? The whole conversation around the 11-plus, grammars andโฆ https://t.co/1CuZntJJl2
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
No, actually @michaelrosenyes. I have gone back into the thread and find, as I thought, that what I raised was theโฆ https://t.co/6rFcKwpfAt — PolitiTweet.org
Michael Rosen ๐๐๐๐ @MichaelRosenYes
@ClarkeMicah We were arguing about the 11-plus. One exam with one purpose. You've just generalised it out into an aโฆ https://t.co/gToYRZHK9f
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
Who precisely defined you in this way @jamiehobson3? Even now, such a person or persons should be reproved.Pleaseโฆ https://t.co/j6YvcAbboW — PolitiTweet.org
Jamie Hobson @JamieHobson3
@MichaelRosenYes @ClarkeMicah I failed my 11 plus in the 60โs and when I finally went to the local grammar school tโฆ https://t.co/jqy5zRQ2iC
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
You mean, of course,that you don't have any such research,@michaelrosenyes.Comprehensives were an egalitarian politโฆ https://t.co/ktjgNUOxaa — PolitiTweet.org
Michael Rosen ๐๐๐๐ @MichaelRosenYes
@ClarkeMicah You're the journalist. Go back to Halsey and Floud. Look at the materials produced by Brian Simon, looโฆ https://t.co/ctv11GSQJI
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
I have. https://t.co/jd3ABUpNFp — PolitiTweet.org
Michael Rosen ๐๐๐๐ @MichaelRosenYes
@ClarkeMicah You're the journalist. Go back to Halsey and Floud. Look at the materials produced by Brian Simon, looโฆ https://t.co/ctv11GSQJI
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
What plan , @gablid? https://t.co/acOHeAwFVe — PolitiTweet.org
Ian Sharp @gablid
In Solihull in 80s Tory council proposed return to Grammars. Was massively popular with parents. When we pointed ouโฆ https://t.co/3PFWGfjn7y
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
Yes, this is about the tiny, unrepresentative rump of surviving grammar schools mostly in well-off areas and takingโฆ https://t.co/1SEsXAFcIa — PolitiTweet.org
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
I absolutely promise to look at it @michaelrosenyes, please give me a link.I am fascinated by the subject. But atโฆ https://t.co/LeII0zq4PC — PolitiTweet.org
Michael Rosen ๐๐๐๐ @MichaelRosenYes
@ClarkeMicah Whatever you do, don't look at our Sec Mod website where people give their testimonies of what it waโฆ https://t.co/2RTSFN1bzY
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
I don't think I said that . Where did I say that @michaelrosenyes? I said you had prejudices against them. I believโฆ https://t.co/t9dbIxbt2F — PolitiTweet.org
Michael Rosen ๐๐๐๐ @MichaelRosenYes
@ClarkeMicah You keep saying that I and others don't know what sec mods are like and at the same time you keep reveโฆ https://t.co/nzm4pXqaFh
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
@michaelrosenyes, The view I express in my book is that this is not a criticism of grammars but of inadequate provsโฆ https://t.co/nJNJEOlR8w — PolitiTweet.org
Michael Rosen ๐๐๐๐ @MichaelRosenYes
@ClarkeMicah Have you figured out what to do if more girls than boys pass the 11-plus? (which is what happened throโฆ https://t.co/6EXjHjCWJY
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
@michaelrosen. Because I encounter it all the time, and find that, under examination, it is not justified. If you tโฆ https://t.co/JWkmlTj69R — PolitiTweet.org
Michael Rosen ๐๐๐๐ @MichaelRosenYes
@ClarkeMicah Weasel words: 'prejudice'. Why assume that a thought-out, studied view is a 'prejudice'? What a greatโฆ https://t.co/Y6yyXj0YOw
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
But I have no such programme @michaelrosenyes . My book, as you will find when you come to read it, offers no suchโฆ https://t.co/QpmlJNAEor — PolitiTweet.org
Michael Rosen ๐๐๐๐ @MichaelRosenYes
@ClarkeMicah 'I have no plan' - there speaks the person who is about to flood the world with his programme to bringโฆ https://t.co/58Q02um5NY
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
I would be most interested in seeing the research on which this statement beginning 'everyone knew...' is based,โฆ https://t.co/ltrPkfsVFA — PolitiTweet.org
Michael Rosen ๐๐๐๐ @MichaelRosenYes
@ClarkeMicah The grave national error was that during the time of the grammar schools, everyone knew that the systeโฆ https://t.co/hL8JjfAzDE
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
@michaelrosenyes. Are you in the middle of a personality transplant? I have absolutely no idea at all what has provโฆ https://t.co/KqO09gFeJi — PolitiTweet.org
Michael Rosen ๐๐๐๐ @MichaelRosenYes
@ClarkeMicah @SeeYaDarling You must try to dampen down your personal envy and bitterness directed towards me and yoโฆ https://t.co/mi9TRDvQXT
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
I make no reflection on your lovely, furry personality @michaelrosenyes. It is not 'getting personal' to point outโฆ https://t.co/O07Xg7gW3P — PolitiTweet.org
Michael Rosen ๐๐๐๐ @MichaelRosenYes
@ClarkeMicah I wondered when you'd get personal - and irrelevant. My father (a 'progressive') helped design the CSEโฆ https://t.co/zQSIrQBCuU
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
2/2 @michaelrosenyes The failure to build *enough* grammar schools before the Bulge hit in 1956, & the failure to eโฆ https://t.co/L8m1ujUGmE — PolitiTweet.org
Michael Rosen ๐๐๐๐ @MichaelRosenYes
@ClarkeMicah Have you figured out the 'problem' of what happens when the number of places in grammar schools doesn'โฆ https://t.co/a0T4DWgu40
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
1/2 have no plan, @michaelrosenyes. People like you, with their dogged opposition to the selection by ability fromโฆ https://t.co/mtEDUNNKvU — PolitiTweet.org
Michael Rosen ๐๐๐๐ @MichaelRosenYes
@ClarkeMicah Have you figured out the 'problem' of what happens when the number of places in grammar schools doesn'โฆ https://t.co/a0T4DWgu40
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
@seeyadarling. As @michaelrosenyes well knows there is an even greater difference between the examinations of the mโฆ https://t.co/bPV3wbhSiF — PolitiTweet.org
Au Revoir Cherie @SeeYaDarling
@ClarkeMicah @MichaelRosenYes they are definitely not equal I took them in the 1980s and there is a huge differencโฆ https://t.co/lby6Q02iTJ
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
Well, so what @michaelrosenyes? Is everyone coming out of comps with three A levels? You seem unable to tell symbolโฆ https://t.co/Qd7dieZkHj — PolitiTweet.org
Michael Rosen ๐๐๐๐ @MichaelRosenYes
@ClarkeMicah Only the top stream in sec mods in the 50s got to take O-levels. In theory this top stream shouldn't hโฆ https://t.co/ViTm9RgI47
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
3/3 @michaelrosenyes.The best evidence on 'O' levels is the regrading of them,followed by their abolition. Jenni Ruโฆ https://t.co/C1IJSvfErD — PolitiTweet.org
Michael Rosen ๐๐๐๐ @MichaelRosenYes
@ClarkeMicah Ah the old dodge: rubbish the qualifications that people get. I worked in comps where students in secโฆ https://t.co/Wi3b7Hmh7K
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
2/3 @michaelrosenyes The 'rubbishing' of which you speak was not done by me but by those who diluted the examinatiโฆ https://t.co/ssr2zfOEPa — PolitiTweet.org
Michael Rosen ๐๐๐๐ @MichaelRosenYes
@ClarkeMicah Ah the old dodge: rubbish the qualifications that people get. I worked in comps where students in secโฆ https://t.co/Wi3b7Hmh7K
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
RT @MichaelRosenYes: @ClarkeMicah Ah the old dodge: rubbish the qualifications that people get. I worked in comps where students in sec modโฆ — PolitiTweet.org
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
1/3 @michaelrosenyes. I did not realise that you disputed the existence of exam inflation. Do you then maintain thaโฆ https://t.co/D7uEx5fKhY — PolitiTweet.org
Michael Rosen ๐๐๐๐ @MichaelRosenYes
@ClarkeMicah Ah the old dodge: rubbish the qualifications that people get. I worked in comps where students in secโฆ https://t.co/Wi3b7Hmh7K
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
2/2 @michaelrosenyes, as far as I know it was educational 'progressives' such as yourself who believed examinationsโฆ https://t.co/Pa3btyIEdF — PolitiTweet.org
Michael Rosen ๐๐๐๐ @MichaelRosenYes
@18tintaweb @ClarkeMicah Yes. Of course Peter will factor in the millions who left Sec Mods without qualificationsโฆ https://t.co/hscOQhDviF
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
1/2 @michaelrosenyes. Not sure what point you seek to make, Many now leave bog-standard comps with 'qualifications'โฆ https://t.co/Cj5Mxew6al — PolitiTweet.org
Michael Rosen ๐๐๐๐ @MichaelRosenYes
@18tintaweb @ClarkeMicah Yes. Of course Peter will factor in the millions who left Sec Mods without qualificationsโฆ https://t.co/hscOQhDviF
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
Because @michaelrosenyes, you appear to share the general prejudice against Secondary Mods. Their biggest problem wโฆ https://t.co/Nn6wgRlu8C — PolitiTweet.org
Michael Rosen ๐๐๐๐ @MichaelRosenYes
@ClarkeMicah Why are you telling me this? I lived through the 11plus. In my school, about a quarter of us went to gโฆ https://t.co/mIhExJRak2
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
The original 1999 hardback of my first book โThe Abolition of Britainโ , still in print. Most of my books may be orโฆ https://t.co/o1nmXAEpY9 — PolitiTweet.org
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
RT @TCourtnadge: @ClarkeMicah @MailOnline Yes but it's easier to pin the blame on the demon Putin than to admit that the C19 panic measuresโฆ — PolitiTweet.org
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
The single biggest driver of inflation for the last two years has been the grotesque spending of funny money by Risโฆ https://t.co/9E1EHUyHzd — PolitiTweet.org
EnergyObserver @EnergyObserver1
@ClarkeMicah It has yet to fully kick in, but it is still the single biggest driver of inflation. Prices went up byโฆ https://t.co/Buws4pzK2f