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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@michaelrosenyes You know perfectly well what point I'm making. It's up to you if you choose to trivialise it, thou… https://t.co/z3WTdqumbn — PolitiTweet.org

Michael Rosen πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸŽ“πŸŽ“ @MichaelRosenYes

@ClarkeMicah I'm happy to talk about that so long as you don't lapse into your metaphysical outbursts about what I… https://t.co/coC8S33jXe

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@michaelrosenyes argues that the 1945-51 Labour government did not seek to prevent pupils at Secondary Moderns fr… https://t.co/czPJbVLfYT — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Did they @michaelrosenyes. And were they in that case of no account and did they have no impact? Give examples. https://t.co/MvhZZl0aLV — PolitiTweet.org

Michael Rosen πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸŽ“πŸŽ“ @MichaelRosenYes

@ClarkeMicah 'statements'. Peter can you see that all you keep finding are 'statements'...with no executive power.… https://t.co/8b5ca8CHpC

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

3/3 @michaelrosenyes. I still have not seen the answer to this question, put to you repeatedly: How many seconda… https://t.co/bAf4fnOyuR — PolitiTweet.org

Michael Rosen πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸŽ“πŸŽ“ @MichaelRosenYes

@ClarkeMicah @MichaelRosen You have argued that because schools didn't do public exams they must have been 'banned'… https://t.co/UwckWS8xhp

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

How can an intelligent person such as you behave like this, @michaelrosenyes? You know perfectly well that huge cha… https://t.co/TF4dsgfRmI — PolitiTweet.org

Michael Rosen πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸŽ“πŸŽ“ @MichaelRosenYes

@ClarkeMicah 'statements'. Peter can you see that all you keep finding are 'statements'...with no executive power.… https://t.co/8b5ca8CHpC

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Don't be silly, @michaelrosenyes. The only ban I know of by Ms Truss is the sanctioning of Graham Phillips for sayi… https://t.co/wmPIqHlTm4 — PolitiTweet.org

Michael Rosen πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸŽ“πŸŽ“ @MichaelRosenYes

@ClarkeMicah Absolutely. You must feel free to use the word 'ban' attached to central govt even though there was no… https://t.co/ErF7ybP1DY

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

I have one of them. the others are only available from libraries. They are not very good. .@michaelrosenyes https://t.co/f6NetWffbs — PolitiTweet.org

Michael Rosen πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸŽ“πŸŽ“ @MichaelRosenYes

@ClarkeMicah Have you got those books that you said that I had overlooked. I am very much enjoying Dick Stroud's bo… https://t.co/2lhqzQRkDS

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

2/3 @michaelrosenyes I have said that the Labour govt regarded the freedom from exams as a virtue. And I have point… https://t.co/aZjnxjcK8d — PolitiTweet.org

Michael Rosen πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸŽ“πŸŽ“ @MichaelRosenYes

@ClarkeMicah @MichaelRosen You have argued that because schools didn't do public exams they must have been 'banned'… https://t.co/UwckWS8xhp

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

1/3 No, no, no, .@michaelrosenyes. I argue that the 1945 government specifically stated that it did not envisage pu… https://t.co/mzTRG62oUs — PolitiTweet.org

Michael Rosen πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸŽ“πŸŽ“ @MichaelRosenYes

@ClarkeMicah @MichaelRosen You have argued that because schools didn't do public exams they must have been 'banned'… https://t.co/UwckWS8xhp

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

There you go again @michaelrosenyes. You think that I am a Tory, and that I regard Kenneth Baker as a voice of the… https://t.co/KGhpJe06a0 — PolitiTweet.org

Michael Rosen πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸŽ“πŸŽ“ @MichaelRosenYes

@ClarkeMicah Look at yourself, Peter. You want to be taken seriously. You have created a metaphysical concept: 'a l… https://t.co/evxxzHuU3L

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

I look forward keenly to the publication of Michael Rosen's Rigid Dictionary for Quibblers. But in the meantime, .… https://t.co/Esz6GWs14s — PolitiTweet.org

Michael Rosen πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸŽ“πŸŽ“ @MichaelRosenYes

@ClarkeMicah Check in Dick Stroud, the book you recommended or Peter Newsam on the division of powers between centr… https://t.co/RZBOPYTDeN

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

I keep meaning to point out something about this ancient tweet. When I say 'lefties like you' .@michaelrosenyes, th… https://t.co/x6MDAe9BQt — PolitiTweet.org

Michael Rosen πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸŽ“πŸŽ“ @MichaelRosenYes

@ClarkeMicah While you're on, Peter, you've made some assertions about SecModders being 'banned' from taking O-leve… https://t.co/5cgG76rUlp

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@michaelrosen yes, Oh, goodness, Latin now.But you seem to have misunderstood it. Is it really inconceivable that t… https://t.co/WDZACOljW9 — PolitiTweet.org

Michael Rosen πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸŽ“πŸŽ“ @MichaelRosenYes

@ClarkeMicah Go back to 'post hoc ergo propter hoc'. It really is not the best way to argue.

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@michaelrosenyes. Once again I ask a question I do not think you have answered: How many secondary modern pupils t… https://t.co/S96ug33dDq — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

I don't know why you keep arguing against the recorded facts .@michaelrosenyes. The government had a lot of power a… https://t.co/n60q4qutcz — PolitiTweet.org

Michael Rosen πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸŽ“πŸŽ“ @MichaelRosenYes

@ClarkeMicah Oh dear no you didn't. My point is confirmed again and again in the book that you recommended. The gov… https://t.co/CssT9H0uq3

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@michaelrosenyes The ban dated from April 1945, before O levels had been invented & was specified in an HMG public… https://t.co/BwQiS0dCXe — PolitiTweet.org

Michael Rosen πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸŽ“πŸŽ“ @MichaelRosenYes

@ClarkeMicah Oh dear no you didn't. My point is confirmed again and again in the book that you recommended. The gov… https://t.co/CssT9H0uq3

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@michaelrosenyes. One prob with our discussion is that I have a pretty good idea of your positions on most things,w… https://t.co/MLUffIAZhl — PolitiTweet.org

Michael Rosen πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸŽ“πŸŽ“ @MichaelRosenYes

@ClarkeMicah So in the Hitchens world view, even Oxbridge (or is it just Oxford) is..what? Finished? Useless? Dying… https://t.co/M5uIu2HjI9

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@michaelrosenyes, you have shot your own case out of the sky. The Labour government clearly stated(in 1947): 'it i… https://t.co/XoKD19vqGc — PolitiTweet.org

Michael Rosen πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸŽ“πŸŽ“ @MichaelRosenYes

@ClarkeMicah If girls are 'banned' from wearing trousers, those are the rules in that institution. I've agreed 500… https://t.co/2HNyEwP72Z

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@michaelrosenyes. Er, about what do I agree with you? https://t.co/AWDn7SQWFf — PolitiTweet.org

Michael Rosen πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸŽ“πŸŽ“ @MichaelRosenYes

@ClarkeMicah Glad you agree with me. If you want to talk about what actually went on (rather than academic discussi… https://t.co/gtv7SA0XLh

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

1/2 @michaelrosenyes I am quite capable of recommending books by people with whom I do not wholly agree. You are do… https://t.co/bdh9ka64AQ — PolitiTweet.org

Michael Rosen πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸŽ“πŸŽ“ @MichaelRosenYes

@ClarkeMicah Again, as Dick Stroud says in the book you recommended, there is a wide range of voices raising questi… https://t.co/t8xXSIjcwD

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@michaelrosenyes The word 'ban' is used daily in a dozen ways which do not involve *legal* prohibition, let alone… https://t.co/h4VHq6YZGN — PolitiTweet.org

Michael Rosen πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸŽ“πŸŽ“ @MichaelRosenYes

@ClarkeMicah 'Ban' - an official or legal prohibition. You used the word 'ban'. There was no legal prohibition. The… https://t.co/hzlykiWRxi

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

But @michaelrosenyes. I never said or implied that. For at least the 10th time, the government in England had no *e… https://t.co/nN7MZDhOdc — PolitiTweet.org

Michael Rosen πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸŽ“πŸŽ“ @MichaelRosenYes

@ClarkeMicah I made clear to you (as does Dick Stroud in the book you recommended) that when we talk of Govt in rel… https://t.co/kDz7zcl3C8

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

RT @ClarkeMicah: 1/3 .@michaelrosenyes. I cited and linked two government documents, whose validity you have wisely not challenged, in whi… — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Aug. 16, 2022 Retweet
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

998/998 @michaelrosenyes. I don't think you'd seen yourself in this light before. As the old song goes 'I'd heard a… https://t.co/XDSxbGsjzM — PolitiTweet.org

Michael Rosen πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸŽ“πŸŽ“ @MichaelRosenYes

@ClarkeMicah You've missed the point. The reason why they didn't take them was not a result of a govt ban. That's b… https://t.co/tTg6iq3q92

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

997/998 I think .@michaelrosenyes, the thing that really got your goat was my point that exam-free schools were and… https://t.co/Wbnu4mciEh — PolitiTweet.org

Michael Rosen πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸŽ“πŸŽ“ @MichaelRosenYes

@ClarkeMicah You've missed the point. The reason why they didn't take them was not a result of a govt ban. That's b… https://t.co/tTg6iq3q92

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

3/3 @michaelrosenyes..that in the 1945-51 period, the only available exam was school cert, which it was more or les… https://t.co/15wIwqw5YH — PolitiTweet.org

Michael Rosen πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸŽ“πŸŽ“ @MichaelRosenYes

@ClarkeMicah You've missed the point. The reason why they didn't take them was not a result of a govt ban. That's b… https://t.co/tTg6iq3q92

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

2/2 . @michaelrosenyes. I'm impressed at your memory of the period between your birth in 1946 and mine in 1951, whe… https://t.co/tgJJdx9zpZ — PolitiTweet.org

Michael Rosen πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸŽ“πŸŽ“ @MichaelRosenYes

@ClarkeMicah You've missed the point. The reason why they didn't take them was not a result of a govt ban. That's b… https://t.co/tTg6iq3q92

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

1/3 .@michaelrosenyes. I cited and linked two government documents, whose validity you have wisely not challenged,… https://t.co/LTTMq93l4a — PolitiTweet.org

Michael Rosen πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸŽ“πŸŽ“ @MichaelRosenYes

@ClarkeMicah You've missed the point. The reason why they didn't take them was not a result of a govt ban. That's b… https://t.co/tTg6iq3q92

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@michaelrosenyes I've explained to you before that a ban doesn't have to be a legal prohibition to be a ban, and t… https://t.co/LwNDoEwctE — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Aug. 16, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@michaelrosenyes. Then tell me, from 1945 to 1951, how many pupils in Secondary Modern took external examinations? https://t.co/HQN7yOlJOv — PolitiTweet.org

Michael Rosen πŸ’™πŸ’™πŸŽ“πŸŽ“ @MichaelRosenYes

@ClarkeMicah Oh dear no you didn't. My point is confirmed again and again in the book that you recommended. The gov… https://t.co/CssT9H0uq3

Posted Aug. 16, 2022