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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@ukurbanite. But when does this principle cease to apply? What of the Russians who in 1991 came under Ukrainian rule which they did not desire? If you base your actions on this principle, then they too must get their self-determination. — PolitiTweet.org

UK Urbanite @UKurbanite

@ClarkeMicah Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples (UN, 1960) I'll go out… https://t.co/PVNedj5FQe

Posted Aug. 28, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@calmlyobserving. In my Trotskyist days at York, we in the IS published a bulletin for the workers of Rowntrees. Within a couple of weeks, Tariq Ali's boys and girls were competing, with their own publication , 'The Chocolate Mole'. I do hope some copies of this survive. — PolitiTweet.org

thoughtfullydetached @calmlyobserving

@ClarkeMicah I know somebody who used to sell that in the streets of Oxford. He said that after his competitors had… https://t.co/5iG9ceyELP

Posted Aug. 28, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@greenfoil2000 . Read the article. We ‘make peace with evil’ all the time. We are on warm terms with evil in Saudi Arabia, acceded to China’s tyranny in Tibet and Hong Kong, and appeased the Provisional IRA. Next. — PolitiTweet.org

ConstantlyDumbfounded @GreenFoil2000

@ClarkeMicah You don't make peace with evil. Putin needs to be destroyed and the Ukrainian people need to be free.

Posted Aug. 28, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Heard of Yemen? — PolitiTweet.org

Arun Singh @ArunSAhluwalia

@ClarkeMicah @AleksandraAco Saudi Arabia has not invaded any country & ain't a nuclear power adjacent to mainland Europe.

Posted Aug. 28, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Vanished world. Actual advertisement from ‘Private Eye’, 9th April 1971. https://t.co/fdN9xoHEGQ — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Aug. 28, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

RT @ClarkeMicah: Margaret Thatcher never expected an independent Ukraine and discouraged talk of such a thing on a visit to Kiev in 1990. W… — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Aug. 28, 2022 Retweet
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

We have had the occasional exchange @jpjanson. @michaelwhite — PolitiTweet.org

J.-P. Janson De Couët @jpjanson

Have @ClarkeMicah and @michaelwhite ever engaged each other in a mass debate on Twitter?

Posted Aug. 28, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@brendanquantock Churchill did not start the war in 1939, and was severely critical of the Polish guarantee, as the book says. But he understood that negotiating with Hitler after the Fall of France was national suicide. I struggle to find a parallel with the current position. — PolitiTweet.org

Brendan Quantock @BrendanQuantock

@ClarkeMicah After such a devastating analysis, I find it surprising, to put it mildly, that you think it was corre… https://t.co/dioWAvvMxI

Posted Aug. 28, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

RT @Miss_Snuffy: If a good school has distance as criteria, engaged families who can afford to move house, do. So families who support the… — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Aug. 28, 2022 Retweet
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

The idea that the UK has any formed policy in Ukraine is absurd.Its attitude, succinctly defined by the Blair govt to the late Christopher Meyer, was to climb as far up the **** of the USA as possible, and stay there. I have always preferred De Gaulle's approach. .@poretsi — PolitiTweet.org

Πορέτση @poretsi

@ClarkeMicah The US + UK do not want that

Posted Aug. 28, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@putinisbot. Gross oversimplification. Do you really think that in the modern world aggression is conducted only through open border incursions by troops? Have you never heard of destabilisation? How can people know so little of reality, yet have opinions on geopolitics? — PolitiTweet.org

putin is bot @putinisbot

@AnnaNRW @ClarkeMicah vladimir putin is the initiator of the aggressive war in Ukraine

Posted Aug. 28, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@bobski0322 Do you actually *like* war? Do you know no history? Or are you just not terribly bright? — PolitiTweet.org

bobski 🇺🇦 @bobski0322

@morrison_derek1 @ScottoHarden @ClarkeMicah You are having a laugh, peace talks at gunpoint. Putin needs to withdr… https://t.co/bB9Mn3OOMM

Posted Aug. 28, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Then I suggest you read it again. @brendanquantock. — PolitiTweet.org

Brendan Quantock @BrendanQuantock

@ClarkeMicah After reading your "The Phoney Victory - The World War 2 Illusion" I am surprised you hold such a stro… https://t.co/rcClYct6VZ

Posted Aug. 28, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Margaret Thatcher never expected an independent Ukraine and discouraged talk of such a thing on a visit to Kiev in 1990. Was *she* an appeaser , a 'Putin apologist' or a 'Lord Haw Haw'? People know so little. https://t.co/WHUbsob8EC — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Aug. 28, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

2/2 @cer_ianbond. And Margaret Thatcher and George H.W.Bush, Cold Warriors of great experience, never envisaged an independent Ukraine. See https://t.co/WHUbsob8EC — PolitiTweet.org

Ian Bond @CER_IanBond

Excellent thread fm @samagreene, debunking the argument that Ukraine can swap land for peace. Putin keeps telling u… https://t.co/UYWdQP4RYg

Posted Aug. 28, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

1/2 Perhaps @cer_ianbond, Anatol Lieven has read the documents in question and does not share this interpretation. Yeltsin, and the entire Russian post-Communist mainstream, thought Ukraine's borders in 1991 were a mistake. — PolitiTweet.org

Ian Bond @CER_IanBond

Excellent thread fm @samagreene, debunking the argument that Ukraine can swap land for peace. Putin keeps telling u… https://t.co/UYWdQP4RYg

Posted Aug. 28, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

RT @ClarkeMicah: 2/2 In the abstract, people claim to be like Voltaire, supposedly defending to the death the freedom of others to disagree… — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Aug. 28, 2022 Retweet
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Interesting how few of my abusers ('PUTIN APOLOGIST!, APPEASER! , LORD HAW HAW!, etc) have paid any attention to this tweet. — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

No, absolutely not @brendanquantock. We had to fight and stand fast in 1940. It should have been made and was made… https://t.co/k0oKW2QjtM

Posted Aug. 28, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

But not with approval @janinethechef1 . It was an accurate warning. — PolitiTweet.org

Janine @janinethechef1

@ClarkeMicah Oh Huxley, he who predicted a world where people will love their servitude.. https://t.co/Rwp4He4DWL

Posted Aug. 28, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@tubewayarmy29 He said it was 'likely'. A reasonable speculation, but no more prophetic than my speculation that it was unlikely and that Putin would be mad to do it(which he was) . As I said, Zelensky & Lavrov didn't know. But Zhirinovsky plainly did, which is alarming. — PolitiTweet.org

Telekon @Tubewayarmy29

@ClarkeMicah That's bullshit Peter, more informed people than you independently predicted the invasion: Michael Kof… https://t.co/5gJzE7Gfyo

Posted Aug. 28, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@tubewayarmy29 . You'd have to point me to where and when he 'literally' said this, as the word so seldom means that. The separatists are often gangsters, as we know. More interesting question is why the USA did not use its great influence to secure *implementation* of Minsk-2 . — PolitiTweet.org

Telekon @Tubewayarmy29

@ClarkeMicah What about the fact that Surkov, Putin's primary Ukraine advisor literally said that the point of Mins… https://t.co/jrsIx2VLcZ

Posted Aug. 28, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

This is incoherent , Tuby @tubewayarmy29. I have no idea what you are trying to say and suspect you don't, either. — PolitiTweet.org

Telekon @Tubewayarmy29

@ClarkeMicah @yonblackbird If you had read anything about Minsk, or the situation or had anything insightful to say… https://t.co/SJ6ZPBPTFt

Posted Aug. 28, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

RT @witty_original: @polytixs @ClarkeMicah Right up until the invasion, he was so obviously being extremely careful with his words, making… — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Aug. 28, 2022 Retweet
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@zricht , can you provide a link to this ? — PolitiTweet.org

Richard Torne @ZRicht

@MarkSeddon1962 @ClarkeMicah He’s an attention seeking charlatan who couldn’t believe his luck when Russia invaded.… https://t.co/ADPYxvD60W

Posted Aug. 28, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@smithsonmartin. Which Ukrainian people? Those who voted for Zelensky, because he was the peace candidate, and were deprived of peace by an ultra-nationalist revolt? The ones trapped by war in the Don Basin? Who gives them a voice these days? Ukraine's not much of a democracy. — PolitiTweet.org

Martin Smithson @SmithsonMartin

@ClarkeMicah I think you’re right and admire your courage in saying this. Ultimately it’s the will of the Ukrainian… https://t.co/Kq6DCtkKgs

Posted Aug. 28, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

It is a strange argument, @petesutton, especially since Mr Johnson, like most of our elite, is going to do very little suffering himself . — PolitiTweet.org

Pete Sutton @PeteSutton

@ClarkeMicah Boris obviously thinks our pain is a glorious thing… https://t.co/D2BelIOHFV

Posted Aug. 28, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

2/2 In the abstract, people claim to be like Voltaire, supposedly defending to the death the freedom of others to disagree with the mainstream. In reality, they join abusive Twitter pile-ons directed against dissenters. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Aug. 28, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

1/2 I expected abuse. The article says:I think it my duty to stand up against the majority when I think they are wrong, and I think it my job to endure the abuse that follows.' A long war in Ukraine will bring nothing. It's time for peace' Surprise me.Disagree with me rationally. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Aug. 28, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@peteinsq. Lots of people believe all kinds of stuff. They believed Saddam had WMD, they supported the Iraq invasion, the Afghan war, the mad destruction of Libya and the destabilisation of Syria. All came from the same kitchen as this horror. All ended in disaster. — PolitiTweet.org

PeteinSQGM @PeteinSQ

@ClarkeMicah in your latest article you say that the terms of any peace settlement now would be better than Ukraine… https://t.co/OEessdGlM0

Posted Aug. 28, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

'Now, as I showed during the Covid panic, I think it my duty to stand up against the majority when I think they are wrong, and I think it my job to endure the abuse that follows.' A long war in Ukraine will bring nothing. It's time for peace https://t.co/9HuB14rJaB — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Aug. 28, 2022