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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
RT @Marys_Miles: @Radioheed1 @ClarkeMicah @phoenixdruid "Utter nonsense"? Are you saying šŗšø was an honest broker in Feb 2014? You think the⦠— PolitiTweet.org
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
@digitalfantazia. Yanukovych was lawfully elected under the Ukrainian constitution, and the vote was generally accepted as fair. As you know. He was removed by a violent putsch and by procedures which did not follow the constitution. As you know. — PolitiTweet.org
DF Digest š“ó §ó ¢ó „ó ®ó §ó æšŗš¦ @DigitalFantazia
@ClarkeMicah @phoenixdruid A ballot stuffed thug of a President (also a twice convicted criminal) does not make a l⦠https://t.co/SKNA0fHzLd
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
They do! What of it? — PolitiTweet.org
Cochranereturns @cochranereturns
@ClarkeMicah @ZoePaulanet Do the words āOrange Revolutionā ring any bells?
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
@blazercupboard . This point cannot be made too often. Also pre-2014 Rada was fairly evenly balanced. After 2014, the Party of Regions was driven out of existence and a major strand of Ukrainian opinion lost a parliamentary voice. — PolitiTweet.org
Wrighty @BlazerCupboard
@rafal_jasicki @ClarkeMicah Since 2014 and the omnipresence of the US State Dept choosing governments and candidate⦠https://t.co/zlxCnfkure
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
RT @ClarkeMicah: Why precisely is it too late for negotiation, @craigmilloyuk? — PolitiTweet.org
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
@gazbar1980 . Just like FDR and Churchill, then , who hugely appeased Stalin at Yalta in 1945. In your view they lacked courage, which is an interesting claim. But what do you think they should have done instead? — PolitiTweet.org
Gazbar @Gazbar1980
@ClarkeMicah @Iromg @TalkTV Appeasement is for those who don't have the courage to take on a bully. Hi hi š.
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
@fre3dsilva Metaphors can be helpful sometimes. This is not one of them. In fact U.K. householders can get into deep trouble if they resist burglars with force. But who broke violently into Ukraine? Iād date this from the US-backed putsch against the Legit govt in February 2014. — PolitiTweet.org
Fred @Fr3dSilv4
@ClarkeMicah Next time someone breaks into your home should we demand you get on all four and just let them take ev⦠https://t.co/bborH7E5sZ
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
@neekeelee011 , the violent US-backed putsch against Ukraineās legitimate elected government, in Kiev in February 2014, was the first bloodshed. — PolitiTweet.org
Meekeelee011 @Meekeelee011
@AsiaK1918 @ClarkeMicah Who attacked who first?
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
Why precisely is it too late for negotiation, @craigmilloyuk? — PolitiTweet.org
Craig Milloy @CraigMilloyuk
@ClarkeMicah How do you stop this war? It's way too late for appeasement. What you really suggest is capitulation.
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
@radioheed1. I seek to open a debate in this country over whether we wish to be embroiled in a major foreign war. Do you really think I can craft a diplomatic compromise on Twitter? If I call an ambulance for an injured man, am I obliged to choose the sort of surgery he gets? — PolitiTweet.org
Radioheed ā« āŖšŖšŗ @Radioheed1
@shaunmwing @ClarkeMicah Abusive tone? Really? I've asked Professor Hitchens on a number of occasions how he would⦠https://t.co/dWCsXlqKdE
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
@stuartpstevens . Walter Duranty lied, a fact you have recently discovered and I have known for decades. Rather than tutting, and slandering me, ask yourself if there is any possibility that there might be a different view from yours. Itās the basis of reasoned debate. — PolitiTweet.org
stuart stevens @stuartpstevens
How can a sane human being not in Russian pay write these words? It exhibits a cruelty that is difficult to fathom⦠https://t.co/R5X0LTUBnF
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
@danbrilliantvāAppeasementāis just a rude word for diplomacy you donāt like. As you are a mob joiner,rather than an independent thinker, I suspect youād have been part of the huge mob which cheered Neville Chamberlain in 1938. Churchill and FDR appeased Stalin, vastly, at Yalta. — PolitiTweet.org
Daniel Brilliant šŗš¦ @DanBrilliant
@ClarkeMicah @SFionor So, appeasement then?
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
2/2 @zoepaulanet . From 1991 to 2008 , Russo-Ukrainian relations were stable. Then along came George W.Bush. ( remember him, the greatest genius in diplomacy since Talleyrand). — PolitiTweet.org
Zoe Paulanet @ZoePaulanet
@ClarkeMicah Ukraine is a country in Europe with a highly educated population, good relationships with its neighbor⦠https://t.co/Iwodcozd4U
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
1/2 No, you donāt. @zoepaulanet. Many people had the same problem with those countries. Yet interventionist war, accompanied by ignorance, has a way of making things worse rather than better. — PolitiTweet.org
Zoe Paulanet @ZoePaulanet
@ClarkeMicah Ukraine is a country in Europe with a highly educated population, good relationships with its neighbor⦠https://t.co/Iwodcozd4U
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
Thatās just abuse. — PolitiTweet.org
Peter Corless šā® ššŗšøš®šŖšŗš¦š»š @PeterCorless
@ClarkeMicah @SheLiveth You are free to hold opinions. And we, likewise free, shall call you out for it. You're a Kremlin #FellowTraveler
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
To what, @abogdashin? — PolitiTweet.org
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
This us what I am trying to stop @sfionor. Atrocities flourish in war. Civilised men try not to start wars, and when they do come, they try to end them on reasonable terms. — PolitiTweet.org
Fionor @SFionor
@ClarkeMicah If so, who dies on the battlefields then? Whose women are raped and babies killed by Russians?
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
Why is that @radioheed1? Surely Ukraine is an enlightened free, law-governed democracy where dissent is welcome and free speech protected? Isnāt it? — PolitiTweet.org
Radioheed ā« āŖšŖšŗ @Radioheed1
@ClarkeMicah @phoenixdruid Would love to see you turn up in Kyiv and repeat this utter nonsense.
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
@loogunda Donāt you recall Victoria Nuland actually choosing the new pro-NATO Ukrainian cabinet after the US-backed putsch in 2014 which overthrew the legitimate, non-aligned government ? It is on YouTube. No secret. — PolitiTweet.org
English Luhansk @loogunda
@ClarkeMicah "Ukraine and Ukrainians have never played a major part" in the Russian invasion of Ukraine - really? W⦠https://t.co/mL3HdmhRpl
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
@djnicholl .Your knowledge of these events is sketchy and one-sided. You would do better to research the matter than to explode in abusive rage when you encounter somebody who knows more than you do. You have a trained mind. Please use it. — PolitiTweet.org
Dr David Nicholl @djnicholl
@ClarkeMicah As a broadcaster with a public platform you deserve ridicule if you argue this is a war between šŗšø v⦠https://t.co/OVu5CnCosQ
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
@steve12172675 . No. My view is that its history as a great power has been decidedly mixed. The Iran putsch in 1953, the daft Vietnam intervention and of course the failed adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan come to mind. — PolitiTweet.org
steve @steve12172675
@ClarkeMicah So the Hitchens view of the USA is the āgreat satanā
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
@zoepaulanet Will that be like the āpeaceā the USA achieved in Iraq (Baghdad is a battlefield this morning)? Or the desolation achieved in Syria by the vast CIA operation there? Or will it be like Afghanistan, abandoned in ruins After 20 years of stupidity? — PolitiTweet.org
Zoe Paulanet @ZoePaulanet
@ClarkeMicah Luckily for us, the USA is choosing peace. Durable peace. Not a temporary peace before a series a renewed aggression by Russia.
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
@Real__robbo I have, in a long life, in which I have been fortunate to have had personal experience of major events, changed my mind-because I could no longer reconcile my opinions with the facts. I should have thought that was creditable rather than wicked or shallow. — PolitiTweet.org
Gary Robinson @Real__Robbo
@ClarkeMicah Donāt take the bait guys . Peter has done 180 about turns all his life . Heās been both socialist and⦠https://t.co/cCmb7JlVhv
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
@narkymarkmarkb Oh, but it is.That is why nobody describes the appeasement of Stalin by FDR and Churchill at Yalta as appeasement. When Israel is pressured to give āland for peaceā this is also not so described.Nor is the surrender to the violent gangsters of the IRA.But it is. — PolitiTweet.org
Mark @Markymarkmarkb
@ClarkeMicah @Iromg @TalkTV It really isnāt. More embarrassment from PH.
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
3/3 @legalbeagle1978 People should also grasp that, ghastly and increasingly irrational as Putin is, he is unlikely to be replaced by somebody better. And he might be replaced by chaos - in a country with nuclear weapons. — PolitiTweet.org
Colin Scott @Legalbeagle1978
@ClarkeMicah What are your conditions of this peace settlement? If the UK was invaded how much of your home town or⦠https://t.co/q0V87mIWXf
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
2/3 @legalbeagle1978. Most western nations, by recognising Kosovo, have accepted that the borders of Europe are not immovable. I see little advantage for Ukraine in insisting on ruling people who donāt want to be ruled by it. And no advantage for Europe in goading Russia. — PolitiTweet.org
Colin Scott @Legalbeagle1978
@ClarkeMicah What are your conditions of this peace settlement? If the UK was invaded how much of your home town or⦠https://t.co/q0V87mIWXf
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
1/2 @legalbeagle1978. How could I predict the exact shape of any compromise? Churchill and FDR gave the whole of Eastern Europe to Stalin at Yalta, and youāve grown up, uncomplaining, in the resulting peace. I would not go anything like so far.. — PolitiTweet.org
Colin Scott @Legalbeagle1978
@ClarkeMicah What are your conditions of this peace settlement? If the UK was invaded how much of your home town or⦠https://t.co/q0V87mIWXf
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
@william_tompson . āWhat ye know, the same do I know also. I am not inferior into youā . I donāt think you should use the Bible to tell people not to disagree with you. It is not what it is for. — PolitiTweet.org
Bill Tompson @william_tompson
@ClarkeMicah Job 13:5. That is all.
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
I rather had the impression that the American-backed putsch in Kiev, following the legitimate Ukrainian governmentās withdrawal from theEU Association agreement, was the trigger for violence. There are differing interpretations, @phoenixdruid — PolitiTweet.org
Mark Bailey @phoenixdruid
@ClarkeMicah Your words make no sense, your beliefs are incredibly stupid You want Russia to be able to kill this m⦠https://t.co/cd51g7PN6l
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
@stuartpstevens. Youāll have to tell me which words, precisely, you object to. I can see nothing which justifies what you say. — PolitiTweet.org
stuart stevens @stuartpstevens
How can a sane human being not in Russian pay write these words? It exhibits a cruelty that is difficult to fathom⦠https://t.co/R5X0LTUBnF