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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Lomng befire that @jsherredadams — PolitiTweet.org

Jon Adams @JSherredAdams

@AnonNowar22 @ClarkeMicah The Economist has been pushing the western propaganda nonstop since the war in Ukraine began.

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@lumieres_mnt I do no such thing. Also, what is in dipsute here? The Party of Regions has not competed in any Ukrainian election since 2012 — PolitiTweet.org

EnlightenmentNow1793 🌻 @Lumieres_mnt

@ClarkeMicah I already have, as you well know - which is why you judiciously and carefully avoid quoting or even re… https://t.co/JOuRJVge1g

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Why are they wrong @lumieres_mnt ? Does Ukraine have no oligarchs? Do they not wield power? Was Zelensky's peace plan not derailed by Poroshenko and the Banderites? Has the Party of Regions (main voice of the east) not ceased to exist since 2014? — PolitiTweet.org

EnlightenmentNow1793 🌻 @Lumieres_mnt

@ClarkeMicah Again, I have already, as you well know. I will know quote them for the second time, as you disingenuo… https://t.co/8BAemy3mwt

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

There are statements of fact. What do you dispute and on what basis, @lumieres_mnt ? — PolitiTweet.org

EnlightenmentNow1793 🌻 @Lumieres_mnt

@CryptoCuthbert @ClarkeMicah For the benefit of those who cannot read... https://t.co/knVhyWa21G

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@JohnHawkins2323 And yet, though this has been so now for more than ten years, many Tory voters still turn out and vote for people who are demonstrably opposed to (and in many cases actually scorn) their hopes and beliefs. — PolitiTweet.org

John Hawkins @JohnHawkins2323

@ClarkeMicah @terrychristian Well said Mr Hitchens. They're signed up to net zero, mass immigration, high taxation… https://t.co/DoHsQ27lEk

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

You seem to think .@terrychristian , that the Tory Party is a right wing organisation. You have no idea how hilarious this belief is to actual right-wing people. See https://t.co/n88OvdOc3A and https://t.co/aTwslF9Byp — PolitiTweet.org

terry christian @terrychristian

Robbie Gibb , Tim Davie, Richard Sharpe - just someof tories at very top of the BBC - still waiting for you to name… https://t.co/Q0hbkFMKBf

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@lumieres_mnt You don't even know what 'refute' means. And I have no 'conspiracy theory' ('Zelensky is secretly controlled by unspecified "Western nationalists" and/or oligarchs).' If I had, I would have said so. Referenced direct quotes, please, by the stipulated time. — PolitiTweet.org

EnlightenmentNow1793 🌻 @Lumieres_mnt

@ClarkeMicah Ignore content, pivot to ad hominem after asserting victim status, posit rhetorical question. All to… https://t.co/qzCNZf1Xgc

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

If I have demonstrated this, @lumieres_mnt, then you will swiftly be able to show, with the use of referenced direrct quotes, where and when I did so. Please do so. I suggest by 12.30 PM, BST. — PolitiTweet.org

EnlightenmentNow1793 🌻 @Lumieres_mnt

@ClarkeMicah You've demonstrated in the past your complete ignorance of Ukrainian political parties and election re… https://t.co/BGeZcfI5ii

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@lumieres_mnt. Who are you accusing of 'vapidity'. Do you know what it means ? — PolitiTweet.org

EnlightenmentNow1793 🌻 @Lumieres_mnt

@ClarkeMicah But that's one of the beauties of Twitter, I suppose: it regularly reveals the sheer vapidity of many… https://t.co/3PPlKzlEpI

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Does anyone in government have any idea what to say to the many small businesses which are now in this position? — PolitiTweet.org

James Allcock @jrmallcock

my current energy bill for my tiny 22 cover restaurant is £2,928 a year. This is my new quote. Unsure what to actua… https://t.co/9stq4sGzFL

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

I don't recall anyone taking this view when the USA invaded sovereign Iraq,or Britain & France bombed sovereign Libya,or when Saudi Arabia intervened in Yemen. I *do* recall the USA's equivocation when the Argentine junta invaded the sovereign Falklands. As for Cyprus in 1974... — PolitiTweet.org

🪷🇺🇸🪷Laylo ~🇺🇦#SlavaUkraini & VOTE Nov 8th!! @shellintraining

@ClarkeMicah When a sovereign nation is invaded, everything else takes a seat to active genocide. Yet, in the face… https://t.co/IK5hs3BLIW

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@ichbinmandryka Why then do Ukrainian flags fly from public buildings all over this country? Why has 'Chicken Kiev' become 'Chicken Kyiv' ? Why is the very mention of Ukraine's awkward past greeted with blasts of vilification? — PolitiTweet.org

Mandryka @ichbinmandryka

@ClarkeMicah No one said Ukraine is a saint. We're saying Russia must end its war of aggression, while you seem hel… https://t.co/C5LCzrKa7E

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

No it doesn't — PolitiTweet.org

Andy - #PauseTheVictimhood @andyblueskyz

@ClarkeMicah But pointing out one side's failings usually shows sympathy for the other.

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

2/2 .@russellguest6 , but I have nominated you for a scholarship at the Thought Police Academy, thanks to the subtle skills at insinuation and smear which you have so ably demonstrated here. — PolitiTweet.org

Russell Guest @RussellGuest6

@bobski0322 @ClarkeMicah @ClarkeMicah, many people believe that Ukraine is not the plucky little bullied nation of… https://t.co/yLVNRLzHUw

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

1/2 .@russellguest6 . What 'tone'? These formulations ('Your tone implies... 'You appear to say... etc ) almost invariably mean that I have *not* said and do *not* think the thing you seek to attribute to me - but you are going to claim that I have said it and think it anyway. — PolitiTweet.org

Russell Guest @RussellGuest6

@bobski0322 @ClarkeMicah @ClarkeMicah, many people believe that Ukraine is not the plucky little bullied nation of… https://t.co/yLVNRLzHUw

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@lumieres_mnt This is abuse. If I am mistaken, show me where I am mistaken and why. Otherwise I and others are entitled to suspect that you don't debate properly because you don't know how. — PolitiTweet.org

EnlightenmentNow1793 🌻 @Lumieres_mnt

@ClarkeMicah Every time you open your mouth Ukrainian domestic politics, you embarrass yourself. I hope you contin… https://t.co/X0kPsUVEGO

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@comodular, and here's the article it was taken from: PETER HITCHENS: We need museums on Stalin's terror all over the world https://t.co/WjlDGMa20f via @MailOnline — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@comodular. See also here, more recent, but demonstrates a pattern. My advice to you, don't argue with ex-Trotskyists about history or Soviet crimes. — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

I think this may be the first time a British national newspaper has carried this picture from the joint Nazi-Soviet… https://t.co/HdZFlii1Ny

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@comodsular, there's this from July 2010 : A Final Word https://t.co/B1JwpLxfUs — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

What *was* I saying @comodular? I've been giving prominence to the Brest-Litovsk joint victory parade since long before it was fashionable. I'm not saying Russia is good. I'm saying Ukraine isn't either. This is not Gandalf versus the Orcs. — PolitiTweet.org

Christian O. H. @COmodular

@ClarkeMicah You were saying? https://t.co/m6n7cGJOYq

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@Lumieres_mnt That would assume that Zelensky, rather than the usual oligarchs, actually runs the Ukrainian state. Since the defeat of Zelensky's peace plan by Poroshenko and the Bandersnatches, this has obviously not been the case. Ignorance is generally wilful. — PolitiTweet.org

EnlightenmentNow1793 🌻 @Lumieres_mnt

@ClarkeMicah "the Western nationalist faction" are nowhere near power and haven't been for years Zelenskyi and his… https://t.co/9sGofuTFAV

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@andyblueskyz. Nope. My sympathies in this are for the people of Britain, being dragged into a conflict from which we gain nothing and could lose a great deal. Childish simplification of the issues helps this to happen. — PolitiTweet.org

Andy - #PauseTheVictimhood @andyblueskyz

@ClarkeMicah But pointing out one side's failings usually shows sympathy for the other.

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

2/2 @bobski0322 And I am also accused falsely of hating Ukraine etc. All I am saying is that we can't have a serious debate on the issue if people imagine it's a battle of pure good against pure evil. — PolitiTweet.org

bobski 🇺🇦 @bobski0322

@ClarkeMicah This is precisely propaganda, creating a false symmetry: “perhaps Russia is bad …but look at Ukraine!”… https://t.co/ZPI5ObDtvu

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

1/2 @bobski0322 There's no 'perhaps' about it. Russia's a tightening tyranny and currently engaged in inexcusable aggressive war. The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was an eternal disgrace. Though I say this, most of my pro-Ukraine attackers pretend that I don't - or claim I'm lying. — PolitiTweet.org

bobski 🇺🇦 @bobski0322

@ClarkeMicah This is precisely propaganda, creating a false symmetry: “perhaps Russia is bad …but look at Ukraine!”… https://t.co/ZPI5ObDtvu

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

RT @Shakesvshav: @ClarkeMicah A war artist about whom a documentary film, 'Drawn to War', is currently doing the rounds. He died when his a… — PolitiTweet.org

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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

But I didn’t say anything. I just quoted from a magazine. They said it. I pointed out that if I * had* said it, I would be shouted down. — PolitiTweet.org

DF Digest 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇺🇦 @DigitalFantazia

@ClarkeMicah Said from todays (very Pro Russian) commentator.

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

2/2 @anonnowar How could I not ‘consider the Ukrainian view’? But there is more than one Ukrainian view, a fact which was reflected in the sharply divided politics of Ukraine before the 2014 putsch empowered the Western nationalist faction. — PolitiTweet.org

Guy Simonds @AnonNowar22

@ClarkeMicah The economist has always been a little Russian friendly. Yet they do have some balance. Yet Hitchens y… https://t.co/2DDJR4LgGN

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@anonnowar22 1/2 Bilge. The Economist has been campaigning for a ‘new cold war’ for years. All journalists have biases. Mine is open. The ones to watch out for are the ones who pretend to be impartial. — PolitiTweet.org

Guy Simonds @AnonNowar22

@ClarkeMicah The economist has always been a little Russian friendly. Yet they do have some balance. Yet Hitchens y… https://t.co/2DDJR4LgGN

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@shdfelka. I ‘deny’ nothing . It is not I who ‘denies the agency’ of the Ukrainian people but ( for example) Victoria Nuland of the US State Department, who chose Ukraine’s new cabinet after the 2014 putsch, in which of course there was *no* foreign involvement, yeah. — PolitiTweet.org

AquaFella @shdfella

@ClarkeMicah Peter frequently denies the agency or the Ukrainian people, and ignores their democratic will. https://t.co/BUyCx79Ud0

Posted Sept. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@Anonnowar . Western liberals who rightly mistrust nationalist movements in Germany, Italy, Flanders or France, because of their dubious Nazi-tainted origins, somehow abandon this caution in Ukraine, so helping to turn a complex crisis into a ‘Gandalf versus the Orcs’ fairytale. — PolitiTweet.org

Guy Simonds @AnonNowar22

@StevenCAmendola @ClarkeMicah Yet millions of Russians joined Fascism in WW2 as do many today. Ukrainian Nationalis… https://t.co/hBHSLeVDac

Posted Sept. 3, 2022