Peter Hitchens

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

4/7 The next was the claim that because Hitler killed Communists, he must therefore have been right-wing and not left-wing. But Stalin killed Communists, German ones included.Does that mean he was right-wing? And Hitler murdered 1,000 of his own SA. Does that make him left-wing? — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

3/7 ..the next stupidest came from those who said that by classifying Nazism as left-wing I was in some way excusing the Shoah. It took me a moment or two to realise that these dimwits thought that 'Left-wing' actually meant 'good', and, well, you work it out... — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

3/7 ..the next stupidest came from those who said that by classifying Nazism as left-wing I was in some way excusing the Shoah. It too me a moment to realise that these dimwits thought that 'Left-wing' actually meant good, and, well, you work it out... — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

2/6. The stupidest of all responses was the one made by those claiming that I had said the Nazis were socialists because the word is in their party's title, when in fact I had not said this and they were revealing they hadn't read what they were attacking, but the next.... — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

1/6 All these days of rage over my statement of the obvious, that the Nazis were left-wing racists, is explained by the belief of left-wingers that they are not just incontrovertibly right but indisputably good (a belief only tenable if they know nothing of their movement's past) — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@waitmanb Dear Dr Waitman, I applaud your arrogance and self-satisfaction. It is at least a step forward from your original dismissive attitude. I have sent you a few replies. PH — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

2/2 A large part of this argument is obscured by the ignorance of modern leftists , who are barely aware of the many Nazi-like things which the incontestably left-wing Stalin did. In a way it is more of an argument about Stalin than about Hitler.. — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

1/2 It doesn’t . @waitmanb was arguing that these characteristics showed that the Nazis were not left wing. I responded that in that case the Communists, who did exactly the same, could not be left wing. Yet they were. So his argument fails. — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

You mean , you agree with him — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

‘neo-Roman’ is a bit of an evasion. Nazi architecture undoubtedly has a character of its own .@waitmanb — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

I don’t think the conservative aristocracy would be among those lots, though, would they? .@waitmanb? — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@waitmanb And no ruthless pragmatism on the part of Stalin? Problem is, utopian movements, as both were, are given to ruthless pragmatism because they believe their ends are so good..The naive expected them to be repelled by each other. But in fact they got on rather well. — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@waitmanb. The responses of the churches to the Nazis were many and varied. The Nazi attitude to Christianity was one of contempt and dislike, especially as taught in the Hitler Youth. — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

RT @ClarkeMicah: .@johnyork . Generally I find that slime washes off quite easily. I am not afraid of abuse from an electronic mob, and am… — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@johnyork . Generally I find that slime washes off quite easily. I am not afraid of abuse from an electronic mob, and am encouraged in my view by the hysterical, unreasoning and ignorant reaction to my breach of a treasured leftist taboo. — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@perivale1954, what a thicko you are. I too was not born in Britain. What on earth would this matter in such a discussion? Prejudiced dingbat. Leftist bigots are the worst of all., — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

The point is simple. In the 1930s,,‘progressives’ such as Stopes recognised affinities with the Nazis which were quite evident to them then , but whose discussion is now (fir obvious reasons) taboo, as you demonstrate .@waitmanb — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Communists also crushed unions and replaced them with official labour organisations similar to Ley’s Labour Front providing subsidised and other benefits. I’d be genuinely interested in figures on real incomes, employment levels,.taxation etc. — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Actually , sympathy for Communism grew greatly in Britain thanks to the Stalin alliance.. — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@waitmanb . The word I use is ‘societies’, not ‘regimes’ You must know this.Why did you alter my words? Many conservative societies fell under Nazi occupation and astonishing numbers of their people resisted the persecution and murder of Jews, often sheltering them at great risk — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@louiserawauthor I sympathise. I have matching probs with a defamatory leftist. But the affinity of Nazis and Stalinists is historical fact, from the 1933 Berlin tram strike they jointly organised to the 1939-41 Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, which seems to be too big for you to see. — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@waitmanb I have not claimed anything as technical as ‘ideological affinity’. Your bloviations bring tomind my late brother’s use of the then common jibe that ‘fascism is the socialism of fools’. I have long pondered what the corollary of that might be. See if you can find one. — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@waitmanb. This is just obtuse. You think anyone *openly* expressed opposition to Nazi rule, especially in the NSDAP’s own subject organs? The importance of Rougemont’s recollection is that it records private discontents private expressed. Have you ever been to a tyranny? — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@mike_from_pa People saw in the Nazis things which they wished to see. The point of my article( do please read it) was that in practice they found something else.This is *all* about appearance versus reality. — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

You’d know, I suppose. Why not just say that you disagree with me and explain why?? — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@matthew51691936 . I’d offer you research if anyone had done any. It was conventional wisdom 50 years ago, and no struggle to believe. I’m amazed you find it surprising or hard to believe that simple-minded street fanatics could see little difference between the two. — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

RT @ClarkeMicah: 1/2 A former German Communist explains how he was seduced by the Nazis. As recorded by Patrick Leigh Fermor in ‘ A Time of… — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

And Communist China, run by the ,er Communist Party, but pullulating with private businesses-, does that fit in with your definition? .@mckitrickpj — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Who are you to tell me what I may think and say? The nerve of it. — PolitiTweet.org

Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

It’s a debatable matter. But inviously not by you. — PolitiTweet.org