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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

1/2 .@curtainsilicon. Russia is a dreadful mess (largely thanks to interventions by the 'civilised West from 1917 onwards, up to and including the Western-backed Yeltsin era of Olympic-scale corruption)... — PolitiTweet.org

Jonathan Fink 🇬🇧 🇺🇦 Silicon Curtain Podcast @CurtainSilicon

@Meltonian1 @RobertCPrice @ClarkeMicah No. Every word is delusional. The Kremlin is a massive threat to our way of… https://t.co/83PleHQ7mS

Posted Dec. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

As *I* remember @amlowryesq, it was just me, then Jonathan Sumption. There were others who joined the sceptical cause creditably early, but, boy, was it lonely at the start. And Douglas was definitely not there. — PolitiTweet.org

Sam Lowry Esq. @SamLowryEsq

@ClarkeMicah @DouglasKMurray As I recall, right from the start, it was largely just yourself and Brendan O'Neill at the very beginning.

Posted Dec. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@douglaskmurray recalls the crazed panic over Covid. And quite right too. But where were you at the time, when we needed your voice to oppose it, Douglas? https://t.co/YDReClLW8X — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Dec. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Quite @douglaskmurray. I remember you finding my lonely arguments against the shutdown an amusing spectator sport at the time. Your support at *that* stage might have shifted the balance of opinion, and saved us much. 'Spät kommt Ihr – doch Ihr kommt'. — PolitiTweet.org

Albert @abpw10

@DouglasKMurray @Telegraph Thank goodness you are speaking out now Douglas- it was a shame that @ClarkeMicah was le… https://t.co/s2MUAiCC8D

Posted Dec. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

2/2 .@robertcprice. If NATO is not an alliance against Russia, against whom *is* it an alliance? If it's not an alliance against anybody,why does it exist at all? NATO *was* a defensive alliance from 1949-1991. But since its 1999 attack on Serbia, this can no longer be argued. — PolitiTweet.org

Robert C. Price @RobertCPrice

@ClarkeMicah @CurtainSilicon "Build-ups of hostile power..." You've adopted Russian propaganda as a worldview. Do F… https://t.co/lWY1pAWTYn

Posted Dec. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

1/2 .@robertcprice. Try to argue like a civilised human. Unless you can *prove* (and you couldn't even begin to try) that I had reached my conclusions thanks to Russian propaganda that I never even see, you must accept that I have reached them through study and thought. — PolitiTweet.org

Robert C. Price @RobertCPrice

@ClarkeMicah @CurtainSilicon "Build-ups of hostile power..." You've adopted Russian propaganda as a worldview. Do F… https://t.co/lWY1pAWTYn

Posted Dec. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

RT @MarkMarksson: @ewan31500487 @ClarkeMicah @CurtainSilicon It doesn't. But it's amazing, when you watch events around the world, how oft… — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Dec. 3, 2022 Retweet
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@curtainsilicon. I don't see how it shows that at all. Can you explain? — PolitiTweet.org

Jonathan Fink 🇬🇧 🇺🇦 Silicon Curtain Podcast @CurtainSilicon

@ClarkeMicah The example of Belarus shows what happens if you give Moscow an inch - they take a mile, and then dest… https://t.co/dXV9VGeEw0

Posted Dec. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@curtainsilicon. Your mind is plainly closed. This is a common problem. I have suffered from it. You may change your mind, even so, in time, when it is safer to do so. I am providing you with the tools to unlock your mind, when you want to. — PolitiTweet.org

Jonathan Fink 🇬🇧 🇺🇦 Silicon Curtain Podcast @CurtainSilicon

@ClarkeMicah Your concern for my education is most touching 😂 but I fear you have your work cut out in changing my… https://t.co/2Io56PawQc

Posted Dec. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

2/2 .@curtainsilicon. People who were present at an event can describe the small parts of it that they saw. But they're unlikely to be able to *explain* it, and there was much that they did not see. I have been presnet at several major evenst which I can describe but not explain. — PolitiTweet.org

Jonathan Fink 🇬🇧 🇺🇦 Silicon Curtain Podcast @CurtainSilicon

@ClarkeMicah Well, we know that’s not true. But the whole ‘two sides’ argument lacks nuance. In the case of Maidan… https://t.co/TY15hPgHJo

Posted Dec. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

1/2 .@curtainsilicon . Sorry, *what* do we know is not true? It is no clear what you are referring to. I'm not 'averse to speaking to Ukrainians' , but the historical record (gathered by scholars who have indeed spoken to Ukrainains and studied the records) is clear. — PolitiTweet.org

Jonathan Fink 🇬🇧 🇺🇦 Silicon Curtain Podcast @CurtainSilicon

@ClarkeMicah Well, we know that’s not true. But the whole ‘two sides’ argument lacks nuance. In the case of Maidan… https://t.co/TY15hPgHJo

Posted Dec. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@curtainsilicon. Yeah, how very convenient that you have learned that from your interviews. US interference in Ukraine goes back to 1991. Amazing to spend all that time and money and have no effect at all. — PolitiTweet.org

Jonathan Fink 🇬🇧 🇺🇦 Silicon Curtain Podcast @CurtainSilicon

@ClarkeMicah I do think its in principle wrong - but in this case the question was whether American interference wa… https://t.co/plonGT8RRv

Posted Dec. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

3/3 .@curtainsilicon. I am trying to help you learn to *think*. Subtract the emotional stuff. Learn from History that cynical violence is normal for all nations, even nice ones; as is concern about build-ups of hostile power on their borders. Next week we'll tackle Geography. — PolitiTweet.org

Jonathan Fink 🇬🇧 🇺🇦 Silicon Curtain Podcast @CurtainSilicon

@ClarkeMicah However, without Moscow’s meddling, Ukraine flooded by Russian agents, advisors, bribes and siloviki,… https://t.co/r2bOv7cPrE

Posted Dec. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

2/3 Honestly,.@curtainsilicon , secret services of all countries tend to have 'bloody, incompetent' hands. It is absurd Pollyannaism to imagine that the West's intelligence services are fastidious gentlemen who never do bad things. — PolitiTweet.org

Jonathan Fink 🇬🇧 🇺🇦 Silicon Curtain Podcast @CurtainSilicon

@ClarkeMicah However, without Moscow’s meddling, Ukraine flooded by Russian agents, advisors, bribes and siloviki,… https://t.co/r2bOv7cPrE

Posted Dec. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

1/2 .@curtainsilicon. I don't understand this. Russia and the 'West' both engaged in interference. This is because the alignment of Ukraine is one of the most important geo-strategic issues in human history. — PolitiTweet.org

Jonathan Fink 🇬🇧 🇺🇦 Silicon Curtain Podcast @CurtainSilicon

@ClarkeMicah However, without Moscow’s meddling, Ukraine flooded by Russian agents, advisors, bribes and siloviki,… https://t.co/r2bOv7cPrE

Posted Dec. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@GWard00744517 I'd be interested if .@owenjones84 is. Generally, when I have suggested adversarial radio or TV to left-wing persons they have run a mile because they do not wish to be associated with me in any way. — PolitiTweet.org

G. Ward @GWard00744517

Can @OwenJones84 & @ClarkeMicah start a podcast, please? Two intelligent, combative personalities representing op… https://t.co/gQI75…

Posted Dec. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Indeed. — PolitiTweet.org

Mark Marksson @MarkMarksson

@ClarkeMicah @CurtainSilicon The truly comical thing is how often the ones who complain the most vociferously about… https://t.co/ZgUBsKE1DP

Posted Dec. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

@curtainsilicon. The closed mind is an impregnable fortress. In democracies, if you don't like the government, you *vote* it out. Is that really too complex an idea for you to cope with? Or do you know you're in the wrong, and change the subject to avoid this awkward fact? — PolitiTweet.org

Jonathan Fink 🇬🇧 🇺🇦 Silicon Curtain Podcast @CurtainSilicon

@ClarkeMicah Well, that’s what I thought you meant. I’m afraid that view really lacks any subtlety- wouldn’t you sa… https://t.co/ve8NCi14rr

Posted Dec. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@curtainsilicon. Perhaps. I doubt they care about us as much as that. But so what? You think interference in our affairs by a foreign power is wrong. The best test of any policy is to ask yourself what you'd think if it was done to you.The 2014 putsch is a crime and a disgrace. — PolitiTweet.org

Jonathan Fink 🇬🇧 🇺🇦 Silicon Curtain Podcast @CurtainSilicon

@ClarkeMicah They had a go at that - and have been intent on disrupting our island’s affairs since 2016. Even thoug… https://t.co/uRqbxPJ0eQ

Posted Dec. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

RT @ClarkeMicah: .@shaun_hutchings. 1/2 Oh, if only the gullible could be made ungullible for just an hour, what a transformation it would… — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Dec. 3, 2022 Retweet
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

No,.@curtainsilicon, I mean that you need to learn to tell appearance from reality, and to realise that supporting the violent overthrow of Ukraine’s legitimate govt, as the West did in 2014, is as wicked and aggressive as an actual invasion. Imagine if Russia did that to us. — PolitiTweet.org

Jonathan Fink 🇬🇧 🇺🇦 Silicon Curtain Podcast @CurtainSilicon

@ClarkeMicah Do you mean Ukraine is as bad as Iraq from Russia's perspective? Certainly their aggression has shredd… https://t.co/PNcfRRMBS1

Posted Dec. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@shaun_hutchings 2/2 ‘We’ ‘went into Ukraine’ for years before 2014 with huge subsidies from the EU and USA to ‘civil society’ organisations. Then in 2014 ‘we’ backed the violent overthrow of that country’s legitimate government, and the resulting regime.But you didn’t notice. — PolitiTweet.org

Shaun Philip Hutchings @shaun_hutchings

@ClarkeMicah We haven't gone into the Ukraine. A big country invaded a small country. I think everyone can see that that is as bad as Iraq.

Posted Dec. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@shaun_hutchings. 1/2 Oh, if only the gullible could be made ungullible for just an hour, what a transformation it would achieve. — PolitiTweet.org

Shaun Philip Hutchings @shaun_hutchings

@ClarkeMicah We haven't gone into the Ukraine. A big country invaded a small country. I think everyone can see that that is as bad as Iraq.

Posted Dec. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Calls to curb Twitter lay bare an illiberal elite https://t.co/9MVbXE0sWQ — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Dec. 3, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Oh, sorry, I see now. I thought you were making a different point. Had the vote been about Ukraine, I would have lost. At the moment there’s a complete inability to see that Ukraine is as bad as Iraq but very ingeniously re-engineered. — PolitiTweet.org

Alison Houston @AlisonH73216123

@ClarkeMicah I am also a patriot and do not despise my country and heritage, only Western interventions on foreign… https://t.co/7TbQy93txZ

Posted Dec. 2, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

.@chead60 Perhaps . But it is not in fact an ancient pagan temple. It is a Victorian museum. Quite eye-catching enough as it is, out there in the fens. — PolitiTweet.org

chead @chead60

@ClarkeMicah It’s a pity they missed the frieze above the columns. I believe originally these would have been brigh… https://t.co/1BRi6m94De

Posted Dec. 2, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Where is this from, .@RichardArmchair? — PolitiTweet.org

Richard Armchair Jr. @RichardArmchair

@ClarkeMicah Hey, Mr Hitchens. I thought you'd find it amusing that even an AI can't seem to accurately represent y… https://t.co/FlAcA6TKlS

Posted Dec. 2, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

I have often abstained @quantumtransit. It is often the only decent thing to do. — PolitiTweet.org

Probabilistic Answer @QuantumTransit

@ClarkeMicah @RyanPHoey Who on Earth goes along to a debate and then Abstains?

Posted Dec. 2, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Well, @AlisonH73216123 What battle do you lose?I am against western intervention. I do not despise patriotic things, and think 'western intervention' damages this country. — PolitiTweet.org

Alison Houston @AlisonH73216123

@ClarkeMicah @cambridgeunion Good to know, it is a battle one always loses in the Spectator and Telegraph comments,… https://t.co/ijELTgTdPx

Posted Dec. 2, 2022
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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah

Ah, @ryanphoey thank you very much, that was pretty decisive. — PolitiTweet.org

Ryan Hoey @RyanPHoey

@ClarkeMicah @cambridgeunion Proposition - 59 Opposition - 129 Abstention - 42

Posted Dec. 2, 2022