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Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
RT @ClarkeMicah: .@grippo77 That is not so. The Rada could not muster the votes required by the constitution to impeach Yanukovych, and the… — PolitiTweet.org
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
Dominic Lawson gropes towards the miserable truth. ‘I’m sorry, but all this ADHD doesn’t add up’ https://t.co/u9jF9F09ga — PolitiTweet.org
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
.@ grippo77 When will you grasp that pre-putsch Ukraine was deeply (and pretty evenly) divided over these issues? Yanukovych was legitimately elected. Democracy was a nuisance for the ultra-nationalists, so they dispensed with it, with outside backing. — PolitiTweet.org
⌬ Grippo ⌬ @Grippo77
@ClimateAudit @ClarkeMicah Describing it as a "nationalist insurrection" feels somewhat partial? It seems that the… https://t.co/SYtf1XKifm
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
.@grippo77 That is not so. The Rada could not muster the votes required by the constitution to impeach Yanukovych, and the constitution was not followed. No informed person can or should repeat this falsehood. — PolitiTweet.org
⌬ Grippo ⌬ @Grippo77
@hyg9384 @ClarkeMicah My personal suspicion is that if they had waited Russia would have merely found a different e… https://t.co/auM191ioR8
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
What influence? — PolitiTweet.org
Serginapolis Pekhrovsky @ErolycM
@ClarkeMicah @Grippo77 @ClarkeMicah's states: UK '...have no stake or business in the quarrel...' USA vs Russia on… https://t.co/nSDesTE5ew
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
.@Poi02509816 I've had three very enjoyable and intelligent conversations with @KonstantinKisin and @francisjfoster, two podcasts and one on stage. I'd be very glad to do so again, on the Ukraine issue. — PolitiTweet.org
Poi @Poi02509816
@ClarkeMicah @Grippo77 @ClarkeMicah has @KonstantinKisin @francisjfoster @triggerpod invited you on their podcast y… https://t.co/HMAW3lPQTt
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
RT @ClimateAudit: @Grippo77 @ClarkeMicah But they didn't. And Yanukovych ultimately decided that he would not betray the economic future of… — PolitiTweet.org
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
RT @ClimateAudit: @Grippo77 @ClarkeMicah as I recall, the issue had become quite sharp by September, with Yanukovych trying very hard to pe… — PolitiTweet.org
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
RT @ClimateAudit: @Grippo77 @ClarkeMicah I looked at the 2013 timeline fairly carefully at one time. It appears to me that the trade issue… — PolitiTweet.org
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
RT @ClimateAudit: @Grippo77 @ClarkeMicah I don't purport to know the inner details of these events, but it is crystal clear that the simpli… — PolitiTweet.org
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
@arogers94544 My account is entirely truthful. Yanukovych was removed lawlessly and violently in a foreign-backed putsch. Ukraine's elections since have excluded huge parts of the country. Why are you afraid of the truth being published and seen? — PolitiTweet.org
Andrew Rogers @arogers94544
@ClarkeMicah A Russian propagandist spreading lies about what happened in 2014. Yanukovych ran away after shooting… https://t.co/BKPLjDrfcy
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
Not so far — PolitiTweet.org
Poi @Poi02509816
@ClarkeMicah @Grippo77 @ClarkeMicah has @KonstantinKisin @francisjfoster @triggerpod invited you on their podcast y… https://t.co/HMAW3lPQTt
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
Ask Ellie .@calculatetrix. — PolitiTweet.org
Alex @calculatetrix
@ClarkeMicah How does washing your hands stop you from catching an airborne respiratory virus?
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
RT @mikecluer: @ClarkeMicah As Laura Dodsworth states in her very fine book - A State of Fear - masks were an idea spawned by behavioural p… — PolitiTweet.org
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
.@thomasatcheson, The tweet you refer to is (obviously) dealing with the interventions of outside powers during the 2013-14 talks on the EU Association Agreement. The US did not invade Ukraine. It just backed a violent putsch which overthrew its democratically elected president. — PolitiTweet.org
Thomas Atcheson 💙 @ThomasAtcheson
@VisionEconomic1 @ClarkeMicah @Grippo77 It's gone from a Russian invasion to a Russian intervention very quickly. I… https://t.co/J55ePS7Pry
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
From the Daily Mail, 5th January https://t.co/QmcjIL8kra — PolitiTweet.org
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
During the great panic, my Mail on Sunday colleague Dr Ellie Cannon favoured facemasks, and I opposed them. Very properly, the paper published both views. Ellie has now very properly conceded that masks are probably pointless. Good for her. https://t.co/YgVaZM95Q7 — PolitiTweet.org
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
RT @ClimateAudit: @Grippo77 @ClarkeMicah the impact would have been by far the greatest on Yanukovych's base in Donbas, and not on the Ukro… — PolitiTweet.org
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
No, you are not doing well, .@grippo77. You are teetering on the edge of being declared Timewasting, Unresponsive Bore of the Day, which would also mean a permanent goodbye. Debate like an adult, or get lost. — PolitiTweet.org
⌬ Grippo ⌬ @Grippo77
@ClarkeMicah I must be doing well if you now think it unhelpful to include my tweets in your responses to me :)
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
2/2 .@grippo77 Richard Sakwa summarises the Association Agreement in ‘Frontline Ukraine’ https://t.co/bocE02QB7x — PolitiTweet.org
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
1/2 .@grippo77 . Richard Sakwa summarises the Association Agreement in ‘ Frontline Ukraine’ https://t.co/oBMZ9JHhRH — PolitiTweet.org
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
.@grippo77 Are you familiar with the 2013 Association Agreement? It was, ah, not especially generous to Ukraine. A general promise made at an election does not oblige a politician to accept a bad deal for his country. — PolitiTweet.org
⌬ Grippo ⌬ @Grippo77
@ClarkeMicah Yeah, but one of those sides represented the democratic will of Ukrainians at the previous election.… https://t.co/stpxQSFekV
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
.@grippo77. Are you interested in debate or not? That is not a serious response. I am not obliged to respond to you, and will not do so if you continue in this vein. — PolitiTweet.org
⌬ Grippo ⌬ @Grippo77
@ClarkeMicah So deeply divided that they'd successfully elected a government and a president. Bloody democracy eh?
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
2/2 .@grippo77 Ukraine, before the putsch, was a deeply-divided country on this very issue. Since then the country has split and those who prefer non-alignment have no voice in Kiev. You might wonder why the EU and NATO thought it wise to force the pace as they did. — PolitiTweet.org
⌬ Grippo ⌬ @Grippo77
@ClarkeMicah So Russia intervened with the democratically expressed wishes of a sovereign country, prompting Yanuko… https://t.co/QULGm25JQg
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
1/2 .@grippo77. Yanukovych was under huge pressure from *both* sides. He was not obliged to accept either offer. He was President, and responsible for his actions to the electorate, but the putschists preferred violence to an election, rejecting a deal for an early vote. — PolitiTweet.org
⌬ Grippo ⌬ @Grippo77
@ClarkeMicah So Russia intervened with the democratically expressed wishes of a sovereign country, prompting Yanuko… https://t.co/QULGm25JQg
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
.@philnotbilly. Unlike the 2014 putsch, it was thoroughly and extensively covered by the western media, so that even .@philnotbilly knows about it. Fact remains that Yanukovych was fairly elected in 2010, and illegally removed in 2014, and few know this. — PolitiTweet.org
PhilNotBill @PhilNotBilly
@ClarkeMicah Comrade Hitchens neglects to mention what happened to the prior president when he had the nerve to run… https://t.co/LEZe7VxsBR
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
Yes, @HunttheBismarck, I find this scorn for the past implied in much of what we as a society say and do and write and teach. Especially in what we do and how we build, and how we demolish. Only yesterday morning I saw a mature tree being murdered by officials for no good reason. — PolitiTweet.org
Bill Stickers @HunttheBismarck
@ClarkeMicah Do we?
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
3/3 .@grippo77 The Washington hawks have got their war, largely in my view because Putin was stupid and wicked enough to give it to them. Its end, like the end of all wars, will be decided by the balance of forces, not by a British journalist. — PolitiTweet.org
⌬ Grippo ⌬ @Grippo77
@ClarkeMicah Your entire thesis is that that his is all USA's fault for inciting Putin. If we should not appease P… https://t.co/K3nQrsWKmr
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
2/3 .@grippo77 If by 'we' you mean the United Kingdom, I think we have no stake or business in the quarrel which the USA has undoubtedly chosen to have with Russia on Ukrainian territory. This country should not support it, and should join international efforts for peace. — PolitiTweet.org
⌬ Grippo ⌬ @Grippo77
@ClarkeMicah Your entire thesis is that that his is all USA's fault for inciting Putin. If we should not appease P… https://t.co/K3nQrsWKmr
Peter Hitchens @ClarkeMicah
1/3 .@grippo77. Why can you not argue seriously? My 'entire thesis' is 1) that all nations have interests and will defend them when they feel threatened, and that it is therefore unwise to destabilise existing settlements. — PolitiTweet.org
⌬ Grippo ⌬ @Grippo77
@ClarkeMicah Your entire thesis is that that his is all USA's fault for inciting Putin. If we should not appease P… https://t.co/K3nQrsWKmr