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Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@shadihamid @dmarusic I would find the accusations of others' false consciousness more compelling if Damir openly admitted that his own claims are underpinned by a particular moral calculus about what policymakers should care about, instead of pretending he alone stands outside normativity — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
I've taken Peterson's ideas very seriously in my reporting in the past, and come away unimpressed. (https://t.co/Z4ug9ooNGY) He openly admits to attempting to manipulate his opponents for profit by being outrageous. In fact, he said it in an earlier Rogan interview! https://t.co/5aAe2rGwOk — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
The Jordan Peterson comeback tour appears to be saying a bunch of ridiculous things that maximize attention from baffled and/or outraged people and I'm not interested in participating — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
No, absolutely not, you cannot make me https://t.co/Y5ePKl6Wux — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
RT @leedrutman: I really enjoyed this conversation. @zackbeauchamp asks some really great questions. https://t.co/hCiFsbX576 — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
I spoke with @leedrutman about why he believes American democracy really can be reformed https://t.co/ItlvpbwU5e — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
If this were true, our foreign aid budget would at least quadruple and we wouldn’t have a cap on refugee admittance. In reality, selfish nationalists frequently win the foreign policy debate in the US - the source of far more of its atrocities than an excess of idealism. — PolitiTweet.org
Chase Madar @ChaseMadar
Every moral/legal code, from the Babylonian Talmud to the California Criminal Code, holds acts of commission to be… https://t.co/WCM7ZOcO5Q
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@JustinTLogan @mattyglesias I think it's perfectly reasonable to say "Commitment A is on the whole good even if it leads to Bad Outcomes B and C, because it also produces Good Outcomes D-X." (Though I'm still not convinced the Libya intervention was bad *relative to feasible alternatives.*) — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@JustinTLogan @mattyglesias I'm saying that playing the game of "cherry-picked individual policy worked out poorly and things would be better in my counterfactual reality" is not a useful response to my initial point — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@JustinTLogan @mattyglesias A lot better off than Syria, if we're playing that game — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@mattyglesias In comparative perspective, the US-led world order is far better on these metrics than any other in human history. It would be completely bizarre if the hegemon's commitment to those values had nothing to do with those good outcomes. — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
RT @ArmsControlWonk: @zackbeauchamp We're very adept at casting victims of state violence as extras in their own murders. — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@EmmaMAshford I see the logic and respect it! I worry this kind of thinking can, among other things, lead to analytic tunnel vision where the US is falsely positioned the root cause of the world's evils. I don't think you're guilty of this at all. But some in broader restrainer world are. — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@dmarusic You are secretly moralizing, you just won't admit it :) — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@PeterBeinart @HeerJeet I've always found this Chomsky line totally unpersuasive! It depends on false empirical assumptions, a confused notion of the role of the intellectual, faulty moral logic, and a failure to appreciate the way this thinking corrupts one's judgment about causality. — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@drfarls I don't think that's crazy at all, starting from their premises. I just think their premises are wrong. — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@JustinTLogan @HeerJeet I've always found the sovereigntist rebuttal to the R2P challenge incredibly weak on a *philosophical* level. It's just that, in practice, a whole lot of interventions seem to be ineffective or even counter-productive. — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@HeerJeet You're slipping from the normative to the empirical. I was talking about the moral contours of American foreign policy discourse, under still-extant conditions of American primacy. — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@drfarls Hmm I don't see it. No one contests the idea that the government should stop murder, they disagree on the question of whether abortion is murder. — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@HeerJeet Like I have seen people saying the fate of Ukraine is "not our concern," as if what happens to civilians in Kyiv shouldn't matter to American policymakers. That is the kind of attitude that bothers me, even as I think many hawkish policies wouldn't be effective. — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@HeerJeet But there are cases where American *inaction* in the face of malign behavior by foreign actors is directly responsible for mass civilian death. Morally speaking, no real difference between action and inaction in this context unless you discount value of non-citizen life. — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@dmarusic Your position on this is philosophically indefensible, but I appreciate that it's internally coherent! — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
This is a cramped notion of moral responsibility that few accept in other cases. If the government has the power to stop deaths from poverty, and chooses not to distribute cash, it's responsible for those deaths. https://t.co/95O1alRETr — PolitiTweet.org
Jeet Heer @HeerJeet
@zackbeauchamp Morally speaking, people have a much greater responsibility for their own actions or the actions they enable.
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
One of the most infuriating things about American foreign policy debates is the politically motivated way everyone seems to deploy concern for human life. Hawks only talk about anti-American leaders killing civilians, doves only seem to mention when the US and its allies do it. — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@speechboy71 Do you and @MattGertz have some kind of support club — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
"Oh, so you measure your fitness partly by how many pushups you can do? Here, try it after spending the past half hour crushing the muscles you need to do them right." — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
My workout program makes you do pushups after a full weighted chest/tricep workout and it's such a reliable ego crusher — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@ryanlcooper Congrats! — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
If so, it seems like the shift towards parties acting more like parliamentary factions in Congress might change the fundamental dynamics — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
Is the reason the US is thought to be unable to sustain a third party like the NDP or LibDems because we have a presidential rather than parliamentary system? — PolitiTweet.org
