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Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@b_judah As a former WC1N resident, it’s delightful — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@vvelan That’s the next viewing — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@janecoaston We’re literally just starting it for the first time — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
Kid is home sick so we’re watching the Paddington movies. Turns out they’re delightful! https://t.co/G9hTg8Fcf5 — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
Sohrab is right here, I misstated the argument in the screenshot. Though this version is, to my mind, even less persuasive. https://t.co/JVcxPo1IZr — PolitiTweet.org
Sohrab Ahmari @SohrabAhmari
Zach: You misread this, I'm afraid. Thomas Fazi (@battleforeurope) doesn't compare courts in Hungary and Poland wit… https://t.co/Y4KNQIZxQq
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
RT @Smith_JeffreyT: "That Viktor Orbán’s peers in longevity are outright dictators is appropriate, as Sunday's election was anything but fr… — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@wtfis2bdone @sckimbriel that's...not convincing me that i should have engaged more! — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
This Compact piece is a good example of the former https://t.co/qLoNYOWZve It's silly to compare EU courts, whatever their flaws, to Budapest's rubber stamps. Isolated assaults on journalists in other EU countries is not comparable to systemic muzzling of media in Hungary. https://t.co/vaunwxyc8F — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@sckimbriel @wtfis2bdone i will say, for my part, i was getting a million responses and it was hard to keep track of them. and it's especially hard to divine what's a good faith engagement in that context, let alone clarify nuances of disagreement — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
One thing I've noticed in conservative defenses of Hungary is that they typically don't rebut the evidence that it's authoritarian. They respond either with whataboutism — democracy isn't perfect here, either! — or by simply repeating the accusations sarcastically. — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@bechamilton we appreciate you — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@delong @Roland00Address You love to see it — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
Plenty to criticize when it comes to Locke on slavery, but this is false. The Two Treatises do not contain a defense of chattel slavery as practiced in America, much less at their “core” https://t.co/LpDg21Vnxp I would ignore this, but the arrogance is jarring. — PolitiTweet.org
Laurie Charles @thestuffofmemes
Not even in principle my dude. The “father of liberalism” John Locke justified chattel slavery at the core of his… https://t.co/OaL2ft9fvD
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
RT @sladesr: The most eye-opening thing I've ever read on Hungary is this long reported @zackbeauchamp feature from four years ago: https:/… — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@janecoaston i have a very strong guess as to who wrote this without seeing any of the context — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@codith @janecoaston i would absolutely do that! — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
RT @JakeMGrumbach: This quoted tweet is the start of a great back-and-forth thread on liberalism btwn @zackbeauchamp @OlufemiOTaiwo @lastpo… — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
Had a strong disagreement with some people I like today which led to many people fav-ing tweets criticizing me. Guess I have no choice but to become a reactionary. — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
RT @juliemason: Check out a new podcast from @zackbeauchamp of @voxdotcom examining the long-term potential consequences of Russia's war in… — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
Love to participate in the exchange of ideas — PolitiTweet.org
Matthew Gertz @MattGertz
@zackbeauchamp Tucker Carlson was talking about this tweet last night but because he loves to lie he pretended that… https://t.co/9CYCHZL6lR
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@inthesedeserts i learned about the beard obsession during my recent exposure to terfland, what is going on with that — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@OlufemiOTaiwo @paulcrider same actually — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@jbouie @paulcrider @OlufemiOTaiwo @sckimbriel @lastpositivist another point of disagreement! i fully agree with mills' self characterization as a liberal — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@OlufemiOTaiwo @jbouie @sckimbriel @lastpositivist It's funny, I basically agree with Jamelle's point about entanglement and don't see it as being at all inconsistent with my view — which is really about whether liberalism was also an important part of the solution (which imo it's actual revisionism to deny). — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@OlufemiOTaiwo @jbouie @sckimbriel @lastpositivist This is more than a little bit of a straw man! I never said "weightier," nor does my argument depend on that. And plausibility cuts both ways — I find it extremely implausible to argue that the world became much better as liberalism spread and that the two are unconnected. — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@OlufemiOTaiwo @jbouie @sckimbriel @lastpositivist I think it does considerable harm to discount the role of liberal ideas and institutions in creating a more just world, especially given that the alternatives to liberalism have proven so disastrous. Now we're dueling tag lines, like I said happy to discuss more deeply elsewhere. — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@jbouie @OlufemiOTaiwo @sckimbriel @lastpositivist Of course not – Femi made a similar point in a separate part of the thread — but it created the conditions under which those campaigns could be successful. I also plead guilty to the charge of non-materialism you leveled, I really do believe in the independent power of ideas. — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@OlufemiOTaiwo @jbouie @sckimbriel @lastpositivist Trying to create a more equitable global system and prevent another world war, including by enshrining the principle of national self-determination into international law? And it (kind of) worked? — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@jbouie @OlufemiOTaiwo @sckimbriel @lastpositivist I think it does no good — in fact, does considerable harm — to claim that liberalism did not play an essential role in the defeat of said hierarchies! That's what I'm really objecting to here. — PolitiTweet.org
Zack Beauchamp @zackbeauchamp
@jbouie @OlufemiOTaiwo @sckimbriel @lastpositivist I'm not sure where that gets you? The spread of liberal ideals, in part, was responsible for said catastrophic events (e.g., abolitionism was liberal). And post-WWII, the victor liberal states —mostly the US — chose to inaugurate a liberal world order for, well, liberal reasons. — PolitiTweet.org
