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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

in my life, i've forgiven someone who hurt me very badly, who rejected my forgiveness, and who has continued to be cruel. to keep forgiving is to refuse to strip them of their human dignity the way they stripped me of mine, which is to hold onto the truth in spite of suffering — PolitiTweet.org

Zed Fang @Fang__z

@ebruenig If the perpetrator does not recant before you forgive, then your forgiveness is merely tacit permission t… https://t.co/yiy3JazCn7

Posted Feb. 9, 2021 Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@GAFuentes1963 that's the tragedy — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 9, 2021 Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

forgiveness is the best-case conclusion to a cycle of events that take place in a world that is *tragic.* there's this sensibility that things can be set aright around here, like it's possible to win this. it's not. people hurt each other. but we have to live together, too. — PolitiTweet.org

ProfOfTheAncientGreekSenate @ProfThibodeau

@ebruenig I suppose Hitler held the door for the ladies from time to time. But that's not the issue, since forgiven… https://t.co/7M3f1vnT1d

Posted Feb. 9, 2021 Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

i don't think anyone can be 100% evil. that would preclude existence (not answering follow-ups on this.) therefore i have to conclude every extant person can be forgiven. maybe i'm not up to it, maybe i'm too faithless or too vicious, but that doesn't mean it's impossible — PolitiTweet.org

Jason Harman @jasonharman

@ebruenig What are your parameters for forgiveness? I mean some people are something like genuinely evil and I wou… https://t.co/uw4ca1WxgJ

Posted Feb. 8, 2021 Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@Tippareth there are also people who advocate for adult consensual incest, such as @incestguy — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 8, 2021 Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@Tippareth our society has an incest taboo, i think that is good — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 8, 2021 Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@Tippareth thank you very much — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 8, 2021 Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@Tippareth i'm not arguing against the taboo here, it is what it is. i'm just observing that it exists — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 8, 2021 Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@Tippareth i'm just saying this is evidence of the cultural taboo against forgiveness. it sounds like your argument is actually: "this taboo is good" which is sort of built into taboos — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 8, 2021 Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@Tippareth yes this is the cultural taboo against forgiveness that you are expressing — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 8, 2021 Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@Tippareth it always takes the form of "why are you forgiving xyz when you should be forgiving abc" such that the conversation is instantly derailed and the difficult practice of forgiveness is never really broached. it instead becomes a conversation about guilt/innocence, as i said — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 8, 2021 Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@Tippareth yes this is the cultural taboo against forgiveness you are expressing — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 8, 2021 Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@kfgpnz right the readers will say "you're excusing offense x" or "wow nice to see you justifying offense x" or the more insidious "excuse me, why aren't you sympathizing with the *victims* of x" — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 8, 2021 Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@tonguelife iron law of the universe https://t.co/hAl6nSAhTI — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 8, 2021 Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

people try to write about forgiveness, but they always end up talking about /innocence/: they say, oh this case is okay because it turns out this person wasn't fully culpable -- was too young, was abused, was mentally ill, etc. but that's exoneration, not forgiveness — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 8, 2021 Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

no, the cultural taboo is now so strong that when you suggest a case where somebody actually needs forgiveness — like, real, no-shit, actually desperately needs to be forgiven for something genuinely evil — the response from editors is: "no, that person's a bastard, fuck him" — PolitiTweet.org

Jordan Ballor @JordanBallor

@ebruenig have you written anything on this?

Posted Feb. 8, 2021 Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

we live in a poisonous culture whereinst the demand for atonement is never-ending but the prospect of forgiveness is rejected as evil prima facie — PolitiTweet.org

Marty @martyduren

About 15 mins into this podcast, @timkellernyc name-drops @ebruenig on atonement and forgiveness. https://t.co/C0boalmYE2

Posted Feb. 8, 2021 Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

"nah sis" https://t.co/hatA0skGpz — PolitiTweet.org

Joe Garden @joegarden

What is a non-Lebowski Coen Brothers catch-phrase in your household? For us, it's "Would that it were so simple" from Hail Caesar!

Posted Feb. 8, 2021 Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@BenBlippenstein Throwing my phone in a wood chipper — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 8, 2021 Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

RT @BernieSanders: Unbelievable. There are some Dems who want to lower the income eligibility for direct payments from $75,000 to $50,000 f… — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 8, 2021 Retweet Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

classic dude syndrome: “chicks naturally have flawless skin and rosy cheeks, also, redheads have black eyelashes. thats normal” — PolitiTweet.org

Olga Khazan @olgakhazan

People know that Jen is, in fact, wearing makeup, right? https://t.co/8lqk7n2sAy

Posted Feb. 8, 2021 Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

RT @olgakhazan: "Bless your heart" is an underrated response to Twitter shade. If anyone needs help learning its proper usage, your favorit… — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 8, 2021 Retweet Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

RT @gWinbags: Child poverty is bad and this would help but work WORK woRK wOrK work work work https://t.co/3AEodjIlg7 — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 8, 2021 Retweet Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@PhilipTKingston many people are saying this! — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 8, 2021 Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

i periodically spend some time chatting with this former NLRB attorney and it turns out that if a union is, for some reason, trying to get its members disciplined or canned, there's an immediate presumption that the union is violating the NLRA. huh! https://t.co/b34KiUVCaI — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 8, 2021 Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

RT @Biedersam: This afternoon I smiled warmly with my eyes at a very confused MTA worker as I accidentally threw my phone rather than my co… — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 8, 2021 Retweet Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

RT @ByYourLogic: I’m the creative director who made it so half the ads this year were purposefully weird post self aware meme bullshit and… — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 8, 2021 Retweet Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

if people could choose their race, racism would still be wrong, genius — PolitiTweet.org

macseries @macseries1

@ebruenig @daveweigel Antinatalism isn’t like racism. Having children is a choice.

Posted Feb. 8, 2021 Hibernated
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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

RT @CBSNews: "The Charleston loophole": Purchases by people barred from buying guns skyrocketed in 2020 https://t.co/AAvDf8yaLt — PolitiTweet.org

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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

RT @mattyglesias: It still seems weird to me that the Director of Poverty Studies at the American Enterprise Institute denounced Mitt Romne… — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 8, 2021 Retweet Hibernated