Elizabeth Bruenig

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@RadioFreeTom @amihailo no they're related, it's just that the statement in 1 clarifies the statement in 2 isn't suggesting an exclusive causal relationship, which makes the 'actually it's just the factor you already said it is in statement 1' argument nonresponsive — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@RiffRaf979 @RadioFreeTom @amihailo in the sample size of this thread it's pretty well-attested, but yeah, we could always require peer reviewed studies proving all 'it seems to me' statements made on twitter for a good time — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@jao_1989 @RadioFreeTom @amihailo any dunk worth dunking's worth dunking right — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@RadioFreeTom but it's not an exclusive causal argument, so the 'it's actually x not y' counter-argument is nonresponsive — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@arawilson @RadioFreeTom this guy gets it — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@RadioFreeTom @amihailo response to this was: actually #2 does not cause #1. my response to that was: ross did not say it did, he just said you're doing what you're doing now. here we are now on round 30 of this — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@RadioFreeTom @amihailo ross said: two things are true: 1.) vax hesitancy = negative partisanship, i.e., own-the-libs shit 2.) said libs totally unsympathetic with mere idea medical system sometimes fail people — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@RadioFreeTom i don't know tom i think ross is pretty fucking serious about his skepticism of the medical system, i wouldn't assume his partisan leanings are more sincere than his beef with mainstream medicine — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@amihailo @RadioFreeTom who care, i'm just arguing that it is in fact the point he made — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@RadioFreeTom me personally, i am extremely pro-vaccine. i'd vaccinate all public school kids at school, polio-style, no ideological exemptions. and i'd strongly consider a vaccine mandate for adults, a la 1905 smallpox outbreak, if this thing drags on. but dude's point is about rhetoric — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@RadioFreeTom but he's not asserting an exclusive causal relationship in the context of covid19 vax hesitancy, he's just pointing out that rhetorically, pro-vaccine commenters seem totally unfamiliar with the experience of being let down by the medical system. it is a rhetorical point — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@RadioFreeTom like, an argument against his tweet would need to be something like "actually pro-vaccine people do have an understanding of what it's like to be let down by the medical system" or "they do lack this understanding because the phenomenon does not exist", not this — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@RadioFreeTom he isn't trying to explain the phenomenon though, he's commenting on a rhetorical epiphenomenon, the one that is unfolding in this thread right now — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@JThom7248 @RadioFreeTom i think we should ban all tweets except those that are about the single most important problem in the world, which we'll agree to by vote (global referendum) — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@RadioFreeTom you're reading into the tweet an argument that isn't there. he's not saying the real reason is x and not y, he's saying y's the reason and yet people seem wildly allergic to even contemplating that there could be an element of x along with y — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@RadioFreeTom But he's not trying to invent a new explanation to supplant a prior one, he says in the first line of his tweet that it's true negative partisanship appears to be a major cause here -- he just doesn't appear to think it has to be the sole cause, even in a single person — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@RadioFreeTom he's not saying a huge chunk of vaccine hesitancy is due strictly to people having lost faith in the medical system, he's saying the people who sneer at vaccine resistance don't even seem to think that could play a role, which, based on your tweet, is true — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

RT @ex_asperis: @ebruenig https://t.co/xGqJacUBSg — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@kap3692 @helloreilly chop chop — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@Coolguy45F communism is a subtype of socialism — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

no way to 'well actually' this without looking like a dork so i'm just choosing not to let it broach my wall of positive energy. namaste — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

catholic twitter in shambles — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

RT @publicroad: Here's @spulliam on the surprise success of "Jesus & John Wayne," a book about evangelical masculinity and politics that no… — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@panicstreak oddly compelling — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

destined for hockey https://t.co/unJl5s42MZ — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@LGreaseball much, to consider — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

he had, i guess, just totally forgotten the baby was more or less sitting on his head in a chair — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

yeah the palanquin days were remarkable. at one point matt took the kids to a model train convention and had the orb strapped into this contraption on his shoulders. a lady came up and said "i've never seen one of those before!" and matt said "yeah me neither. really cool train." — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@RetiredNavy007 is adorable — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@RetiredNavy007 i did better than seth rogen which is saying something as he seems like a cool guy — PolitiTweet.org