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Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
@TylerWedrosky @gnrosenberg i did a better job expressing that thought in longer form: https://t.co/y3rlrVFHMp — PolitiTweet.org
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
@TylerWedrosky @gnrosenberg i put it poorly and said something like -- i don't care if people want to take ivermectin; it has its risks, just like the vaccine has its risks. if they're okay with the former, why not the latter? could be a good opening for a persuasive conversation. but i wasn't clear — PolitiTweet.org
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
@AndreiCrumb @gnrosenberg idk it was a relatively longwinded debate like two days ago, i figured that might be what was meant by 'reactionary moralism', didn't seem too bananas to me — PolitiTweet.org
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
@gnrosenberg sir i cannot understand what you are describing here as my reactionary moralism. the view that people who're really committed to ivermectin could possibly be persuaded to be vaccinated? — PolitiTweet.org
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
@gnrosenberg also, nobody called you a pedophile, i asked if you were upset about the pedophilia stuff that happened earlier this week, if that was the reactionary moralism you were upset about. — PolitiTweet.org
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
@gnrosenberg wait, i just asked a question -- is that what you mean by reactionary moralism? i ask because the ivermectin thing isn't really a reactionary moralist thing in any frame, but this week did have another major moral issue i was involved with — PolitiTweet.org
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
@gnrosenberg yeah — PolitiTweet.org
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
@gnrosenberg i think i kind of expressed myself poorly w the ivermectin post -- the longform piece today is all i meant, and that was better put -- but i don't see how that's striking you as reactionary moralism. is this about the pedophilia stuff dude — PolitiTweet.org
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
@gnrosenberg yeah, you do a post that's gatekeeping, then in the moment, you're gatekeeping. i don't know if that's something you're eternally committed to or whatever but it's something you're currently engaged in, and only doing it a little bit doesn't change that lol — PolitiTweet.org
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
@gnrosenberg well you did a whole post about what kind of political creature i should be considered (leftist no, eclectic reactionary catholic yes, similar to douthat perhaps) so it seems like you sort of teed up the whole 'gatekeeping leftism' thing by gatekeeping leftism — PolitiTweet.org
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
@gnrosenberg yeah — PolitiTweet.org
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
@TankieSanders yes one of my problems is i won't talk about things my friends have shared with me in confidence and the ways i've talked with them about those things because they're private — PolitiTweet.org
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
@markgdunstan @gnrosenberg well they were bernie's opponents in the primaries, so that was true only in a temporary and limited sense — PolitiTweet.org
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
@gnrosenberg about labels! if it means something to you to say "liz is a falangist" that's fine with me. it's not true, but saying it doesn't change the truth and if it helps you feel alright then go with god imho — PolitiTweet.org
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
@archerships we're talking about the left a la european style social democratic parties (or even further left), not the dems — PolitiTweet.org
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
@JackEHunter3 jack i'm vibing — PolitiTweet.org
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
insofar as people on this beautiful website are cool with me, it's probably because i decline to behave in that fashion toward them, not because they simply don't realize how wrong i am about everything. i get that it sucks when your friends are nice to losers, but alas! — PolitiTweet.org
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
it's this inward fixation on scene-setting, as though the left, whatever that means in a country without an actual left party, is waiting for the world to begin -- when the curtain goes up, we'll be ready. but it's all already happening, and all kinds of people are involved in it — PolitiTweet.org
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
but what's really going on is the thing i mentioned above: the left has always had this tendency, and it feels like politics to refine, refine, refine the group until the project can't fail because the personnel is so unified and the view is so perfect, but that's not politics. — PolitiTweet.org
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
if you think i have secret bad thoughts and that my discursive power comes from my having a platform, why on earth would you try to pry my bad thoughts out and put them onto my platform? that would be forcing the very outcome you're saying you're worried about. — PolitiTweet.org
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
the answer is this: i am a writer, and i have power insofar as what i write gets in front of eyes and has some kind of persuasive discursive impact. if i don't write down these private, dark thoughts, they can't hurt anyone. the whole archaeological mission is self-defeating. — PolitiTweet.org
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
if you wanna see how my politics, weird as they are, cash out, here's how they cash out: i spent two election cycles at the two papers of record banging the drum for Bernie nonstop. "ah, but what secret thoughts lurk in your mind?" you, a lunatic, ask — PolitiTweet.org
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
okay. i think the problem is that the left is politically powerless -- i mean just fucking walloped and dead in the water -- and so what passes for left politics is a lot of mean girling about who's in and who's out across social media and podcasting platforms — PolitiTweet.org
bearistotle @gnrosenberg
As a general matter, I think we agree here. I think the problem is more about people's attachments to the idea that… https://t.co/Lal4ueysPv
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
@gnrosenberg my politics are identical to those of european christian democratic parties that form governments with socialist parties all the time lol, but i'm not really fussed about labels. you can call me a reactionary if it helps you calm down and feel good — PolitiTweet.org
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
well how many of you get paid to talk to your uncle? i rest my fucking case dweeb — PolitiTweet.org
Dingledangle @Dingled72265062
@ebruenig You get paid to talk to your uncle, how is that eccentric
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
not running for congress not writing policy for anyone not trying to influence anyone's policy platforms mainly interested in moral issues, but to the degree policy is involved, it's blunt and straightforward -- i.e., death penalty abolition just a writer writes things calm down — PolitiTweet.org
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
it would be healthy if twitter users would stop trying to force liz bruenig into a politician bottle and would just read her (correctly) as an eccentric writerly type who has all kinds of ideas, none of which she demands or even expects you to agree with, much less comply with — PolitiTweet.org
bearistotle @gnrosenberg
It would be healthy if Twitter socialists would stop trying to force Liz Bruenig into a leftist bottle, and just re… https://t.co/fZzJYZQ0x5
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
RT @KFILE: Y’all I just got updated @TeamBeansFund numbers from @DanaFarber. We’re at $1,384,545 raised for infant brain cancer. Let’s g… — PolitiTweet.org
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
@MonicaBPotts 'retire', as in blade runner? — PolitiTweet.org
Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig
@MonicaBPotts what is the verb here, 'route'? — PolitiTweet.org
