Elizabeth Bruenig

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

RT @falkring: https://t.co/blm7rhwYdH — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

RT @NoahShachtman: NEW: MAGA preacher Sean Feucht raked in millions from his Trump-worshipping flock https://t.co/rR4dQPsxtb — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@chriswigington @FakeJsCommunist @CarlBeijer incoming: >point still counts >atlantic is actually more important than NYT in determining national politics >if anything, this is honestly worse — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

RT @JeffreyGoldberg: It's taken a bit of time, but @TheAtlantic's full archive -- dating back to November, 1857 -- is now online. More info… — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@chriswigington @FakeJsCommunist @CarlBeijer just recording for the record that you're all worked up about this and you've got no idea where i even work. i haven't worked for NYT for over a year now. however i can see this issue is of the utmost considered importance to you, https://t.co/vq1S7ufwIa — PolitiTweet.org

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@CarlBeijer at least gimme a single tear rolling down ur cheek as you take a deep breath and call me the c word — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@Bayl3rat @espiers I wouldn't say the Ordeal of the Bitter Waters lines up with what we would think of as the practice of abortion. It was a form of trial. — PolitiTweet.org

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@espiers Haha, much appreciated. — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@espiers I just believe Jesus Christ has done this for me, so I love Him, and I'm trying to do a good job of living a good life as I believe He asked. I'm fucking it up pretty good, but I'm trying. There's not really an argument for it; it's more of a passion. He's all I've got! — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@JulienHKK @ur_momma_so @espiers No, I explained how Christian doctrine accounts for the logical problem this person presented — PolitiTweet.org

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@espiers For me, Jesus Christ has either redeemed my soul or not, and everything else follows from that proposition. I believe that He has. Everything else, for me personally, is secondary to that. This religion has seen many ages and many politics. It will see many more. — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@espiers Yeah, largely because as people become more progressive, they quit Christianity. This means leftwing Christianity is dying out altogether. But the leftwing people are still around. https://t.co/Vvhu7uYp6D — PolitiTweet.org

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@AnneCW @espiers I'm not arguing that it should, I was just prompted to answer some questions about Christian history — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@espiers @JPIIkoala Yeah of course, that's how we get a sense of the context the earliest Christians existed in prior to Christ. It helps make sense of their methods of interpretation, rituals, and political fortunes. I'm not sure anyone does Early C/Late antiquity without doing history. — PolitiTweet.org

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@espiers @JPIIkoala We do, we do. — PolitiTweet.org

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@espiers Ok. I was just answering your question about whether I think it's possible there will be Christians who develop different doctrine on this point than the early Christian doctrine we discussed, and yeah, I think there already are Christians who've done that (and more.) — PolitiTweet.org

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@espiers As far as I know, several Protestant churches do indeed reject the idea that abortion is a moral problem. — PolitiTweet.org

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@espiers Christianity is changing all the time, yeah. I've come to think over time that the early versions aren't necessarily any more 'authentic' than the latter, but they do indicate that this has always been a fractured faith of many traditions and influences. — PolitiTweet.org

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@espiers There's at least one version of the Septuagint, though I don't know precisely when it was introduced, that refers to fetal murder, iirc. So there were evidently some reservations in pre-Christian Judaism, at least in one textual tradition. — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@espiers Well, early Christianity, as in the very 1st century, was pretty determined by the origin of the converts. Some were Greek, some were Jews, some were Roman. They had a huge variety of views on the subject. Some Greeks, per the Hippocratic oath, objected to the practice. — PolitiTweet.org

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@ur_momma_so @espiers the cells don't die, this is the point of bodily resurrection and the incarnation — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@espiers It was actually. Augustine wrote about it. It's also in the Didache and I think came up at the Synod of Elvira, so it was certainly under explicit discussion 2nd-4th centuries. No, I don't mean viability, I mean fetal 'life' -- that's what they equated with quickening. — PolitiTweet.org

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@espiers Well the Church was always against abortion as they understood it, they just didn't believe the fetus was 'alive' prior to quickening, because they had no reason to think so. Their account that advanced technology moved the timeline up at least facially holds water, imho. — PolitiTweet.org

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@GChristiemd To me it's just so clear in the data that our maternal/infant mortality problems are (at the very least) linked to our refusal to create the bare minimum healthcare programs our peer nations have in place. Solving that problem should be a baseline effort. — PolitiTweet.org

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when it hails in north texas — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@nycjaneyvee @melissagira @DavidDark @swamp__creature @rhbrandon I won't be trying to find you. — PolitiTweet.org

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This implies delivery companies could elect to stop delivering guns and ammunition altogether, no? — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@wallhax @davidrieff @alexgourevitch this is all just factually untrue and easily checked — PolitiTweet.org

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@melissagira @DavidDark @swamp__creature @rhbrandon I think the piece is pretty clear about why I doubt these folks will get on board, but I wanted to make the policy argument explicit. I have made this argument many, many times over the years. — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@melissagira @DavidDark @swamp__creature @rhbrandon I think they'll probably spend a lot of time defending the flow of state money to crisis pregnancy centers, based on my interview with Kristen Waggoner from ADF. She also said she wants to defend bans in red states. I wrote this because, as always, I think this would be better. — PolitiTweet.org