Elizabeth Bruenig

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

golden age of takes — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

we're living in the golden age of takes — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@MikeIsaac my parents are gonna go to chickenpox parties but for getting covid, to make themselves stronger and, in a mystical and ineffable way, to own the libs — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@lane_lawless the lamestream media doesn't want you to know this — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

100% of survivors of covid live. wake up sheeple — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@henrichenaski @Jafpro_16 @LizardRumsfeld @DashWallkick @lolstjames @Albidelendisunt @xoundmind there's also no law allowing physicians to place people under mandatory psych holds for trying to leave medical settings with covid19 — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@BeaverDumb :( poor angel baby, ours is in that boat rn — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@languissant i bet she'd honestly love that — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@LizardRumsfeld @DashWallkick @lolstjames @Albidelendisunt @xoundmind lol yes that is a shitty decision, but i don't think it meets the criteria for mental illness, and am more bothered by the idea of spurious diagnoses of mental illness being used as grounds for detainment, which has a long, bad history — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

need to repopulate the baby's gut flora after a course of antibiotics. whats the best way to do that. some say yogurt. others say handful of dirt — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@henrichenaski @Jafpro_16 @LizardRumsfeld @DashWallkick @lolstjames @Albidelendisunt @xoundmind locking up flu patients on spurious psych grounds to own....someone — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@RustyShackle4d_ @LizardRumsfeld @DashWallkick @lolstjames @Albidelendisunt @xoundmind if you just think trump in particular should be imprisoned, just say that — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@LizardRumsfeld @DashWallkick @lolstjames @Albidelendisunt @xoundmind well i was entertaining it! and what it said was that his desire to leave was proof enough he needed a psych eval (and mandatory psych hold!) which is what i took exception with. i don't like authoritarianism in medicine, and i'm sorry if that didn't make it through. — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@LizardRumsfeld @DashWallkick @lolstjames @Albidelendisunt @xoundmind right, i mean -- i think if we're talking about detaining people who are imminent threats to themselves/others, that's already a widely abused power, but in this case the doctor-tweeter seemed to suggest the 'threat' was being contagious whatsoever — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@lolstjames @DashWallkick @LizardRumsfeld @Albidelendisunt @xoundmind no because the analogy is not drawn between the illnesses, it is drawn between the proposed response to limiting their spread. i don't think doctors should be able to summarily detain someone for being contagious; other people disagree — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@LizardRumsfeld @IHateThis4444 @Albidelendisunt @xoundmind i guess in my view, 'this illness is somewhat difficult to transmit' is not why it's unethical to forcibly detain people with HIV/AIDS at doctors' discretion. it's unethical because we have rights to due process, equality under the law, human dignity, etc. — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@sandyd2713 @LizardRumsfeld @Albidelendisunt @xoundmind so your argument here is that covid patients should be forcibly quarantined at doctors' discretion because their contagious illness is easily transmissible — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@TravisB88219475 i don't oppose lockdowns or quarantine orders. those are mandated by law, by democratically elected leaders who have the authority to enact laws. what this discussion is about is whether doctors ought to be able to arbitrarily decide to detain someone b/c they're contagious — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@samthielman @xoundmind we all deserve the same rights and same responsibilities imho — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@bonnieringtail @LizardRumsfeld @Albidelendisunt @xoundmind what kicked this all off was a doctor tweeting she'd use involuntary psych hold laws to detain trump because he's got the rona — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@LizardRumsfeld @Albidelendisunt @xoundmind i used that analogy because people with HIV/AIDS are already effectively criminalized in many states, on the grounds that they are contagious and the disease is deadly, and i think that's reprehensible. 'it's a virus, not a crime' is a slogan for a reason! https://t.co/DZ7uZDlIJA — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

alright. fine. nevermind, i take the L. the CDC should set up military checkpoints every 3 miles on every major interstate and swab all motorists as they pass through. if test comes back positive, motorists are detained at subsequent checkpoints until 3 sequential negative tests — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@samthielman @xoundmind because he's not the only one with that dangerous, airborne, novel disease. i don't care about trump in particular, i care about the principle. — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@oslerfrog this is an example of there being a law in place — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@HamersleyAndrew doctors can advise you not to leave, but they cannot force you to stay. that's false imprisonment. — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@danielwinlander ah, that'll fix the problem — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@samthielman @xoundmind 1.) his decision was bad and immoral, like 99.9% of his decisions 2.) still disagree with the doctor who tweeted she'd use an involuntary psych hold to restrain him from making bad, immoral choices — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@Philip040259 @castlecraver @Albidelendisunt @xoundmind in fact there are state laws that punish people with HIV/AIDS even for exposing people who are willing to be exposed, and for engaging in extremely low-risk activities, like spitting or biting. this is why we shouldn't criminalize illness — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@Albidelendisunt @xoundmind right, there's no principle in play here, it's just: fantasizing about owning trump on twitter — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

1.) yes it is 2.) doctors cannot mandate that you cannot leave a place. they lack the authority. they should lack the authority. 3.) as i said before: if you think people with COVID should be forcibly quarantined, lobby your legislators for a law 4.) i just don't agree with that — PolitiTweet.org