Elizabeth Bruenig

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@thetomzone @hannahgais definitely an extremely dumb, almost compulsively horny decision, do not endorse it — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

RT @DrKathrynGordon: a very snowy 🌳 & a slightly snowy 🐕 https://t.co/HPQKDy7NFa — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

RT @kothscreens: https://t.co/fenCelc86i — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@thetomzone @hannahgais my understanding here hinges on him having actually believed he was not on camera. if that's a lie and he actually intended to be seen, then of course he should be fired — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@GordonGramsci it sounds like he tried to shut his computer but mistakenly believed it was closed though it was still partially open, revealing his horrible lap situation. if he indeed intentionally jacked off in plain view of all his colleagues, then of course he should be fired — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

i'm a bernard brother; toobin is my political enemy, and the enemy of people trying to have a normal one everywhere — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

RT @MattBruenig: Me every time I have a disagreement with @ebruenig https://t.co/siWUvv8KMg — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@DrRJKavanagh if it was intentional, that changes the whole thing, and he should be fired. if not, i don't think people should be fired for stuff they're accidentally discovered by coworkers to be doing at home — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

i hate my life, but consider the differences here: 1.) you read your NC17 gundam wing fanfic aloud to all your horrified coworkers 2.) you have your NC17 gundam wing fanfic printed out on your desk, and for a moment on zoom, the text is inadvertently made visible to coworkers — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@noahdmancino thank you king — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

i deleted the other tweet bc it was unclear. i'm not saying you've got to intend that something result in someone feeling harassed for it to count as harassment; i'm saying you have to have willed the thing itself, which he didn't -- the thing itself was the **perception**! — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

no, i said it requires intent to do the thing received as harassment. if you tell a sexual joke not intending to offend people, you still told the joke. this was not intended to be seen or heard by any other people; it was an accident that it was perceived by human eyes and ears — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@royaltheartist he did not think it was ongoing, it appears he believed to have left it by shutting his computer, and intended to rejoin a few minutes later (as he did) — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

tried to close the computer, just failed believed he was not on the call don't know what else to tell you — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

i know this just doesn't register for some reason, but the moron tried to close his computer, he seems to have believed that was not visible or audible to anyone — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@DrRJKavanagh i simply disagree. disciplinary suspension and being ruthlessly mocked seem like sufficient punishment for a humiliating accident — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

RT @nickripatrazone: René Char https://t.co/ThNsjzxF3K — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@royaltheartist @hannahgais right, should've been clearer: he intended to masturbate, but he did not intend to do it during a work call (he attempted to close the computer altogether, theoretically terminating the call) — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

bingo. there are many, many, many gradations of iniquity in life. we spend a lot of time trying to categorize things so as to eliminate those shades, and instead render a 'pure' judgment. i think a just world would be *extremely* sensitive to those subtle shades, though — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@BDesco @hannahgais i mean he was in his own home and apparently tried to close his computer so as to prevent even the possibility of being in view of his laptop camera — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@dbeffert @hannahgais imagine a scenario in which the guy did not even mean to tell a joke, just uttered it as some kind of tic, a la tourette's syndrome, and someone overheard and was offended. — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@BDesco @hannahgais right, borrowing it from its context here to say: this was never meant, so far as we can tell, to be seen or heard by other people. that it was appears to have been purely accidental. if it was intended to be observed, then it's sexual harassment, and he should be canned — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@hannahgais say you're on a zoom meeting and while your coworkers natter on about whatever, you're working on your widely acclaimed but extremely graphic vampire hunter d fanfiction, then you accidentally, due to swatting a bug on your keyboard, screenshare. bad, but not sexual harassment — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@hannahgais people are getting confused here. i'm not saying 'you have to intend to sexually harass someone for it to constitute sexual harassment,' i'm saying 'you have to have actually willed the act received as harassment for it to be harassment.' i.e., the accidental aspect is key — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

toobin's politics aren't even in the same universe as mine dumb dumb, this isn't about helping out a likeminded soul. i detest his politics https://t.co/gtJCuiRsRZ — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@SawmillLandfill probs not — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@AliquidAmari i'm an adult, i don't need the police to arrest someone because they made a mistake and it resulted in me seeing them humiliate themselves — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

sexual harassment must be *intentional.* that is a requirement. it is about the malice aforethought. if you're changing clothes in a stockroom or whatever and your coworker opens the door and sees your pallid behind, that's not sexual harassment — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

@AliquidAmari yeah, if toobin jacked off in front of my four-year-old, i would notify the police. don't really think that's relevant here, but yes — PolitiTweet.org

Elizabeth Bruenig @ebruenig

if i'm on zoom and some fool clearly doesn't realize they've got their willy out in plain view of god and everybody, i would pop the chat open and type in "put your dumb dick away idiot everyone can see you" and then screencap for posterity, but i wouldn't be moved to tattle — PolitiTweet.org