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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@laurawags you wrote: "as if cops aren’t constantly using their guns to murder people in the street with impunity" How many times a year do you think that happens? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jonahdavids1 Crime was high, their parents were divorced and they thought they would get AIDS if they had sex — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@rossalovelace @bendreyfuss No one can ever answer this. Telling. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@rossalovelace @bendreyfuss What specific question he has raised do you consider an illegitimate question for a journalist covering youth transition to raise? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
After all, the milieu that some of us are objecting to because of the sadistic cruel streak that runs through it is also coinciding with massive increase in youth depression, mental illness and suicide. Maybe the norms before all that were better in some ways! — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
I also think that Gen X had the luxury of coming of age in a milieu less mediated by technology and, for that reason, less infused by its worst negative externalities—and that telling people there is a better way based on that experience is a good thing. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
Puritanical zealots with authoritarian personality types fervently insisting that sweeping illiberal norms must be adopted and trying to destroy dissenters is indeed a pretty standard cultural shift, historically speaking, but I think it is nevertheless a shift worth resisting. — PolitiTweet.org
Ben Collins @oneunderscore__
So much of what’s going on in op-ed pages recently can be explained by flailing, grasping generational panic by Gen… https://t.co/XQ6qYyixwj
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@CloOnTheLeft @PsychEnjoyer That is to say, the most solid studies we have were based on kids who went through more thorough assessments in a very different social milieu, and more study is needed on many kinds of use cases — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@CloOnTheLeft @PsychEnjoyer I disagree with you substantively when you say "it's not experimental"--as I understand it, we're talking about off label uses of drugs that are still being studied and are currently being prescribed in instances that depart significantly from the conditions of existing studies — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@docMJP I regarded Breitbart as infamous because of his unethical treatment of me personally as well as Juan Carlos Vera and I have never heard a persuasive defense of either. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@CloOnTheLeft @PsychEnjoyer Not ignoring this, just putting a temporary pin in it because I have to go offline for a bit--to be continued, I do have thoughts on this, and thanks for engaging so far. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@CloOnTheLeft @PsychEnjoyer It seems like you're making two claims that are incompatible taken together: 1) Medical establishments sometimes reach consensuses that aren't backed up by the science. 2) It is suspect for journalists to ask questions after a medical establishment has articulated a consensus. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@CloOnTheLeft @PsychEnjoyer I struggle to see how you would reach any conclusions about what motivated multiple different European countries to act but for journalists who asked questions about those countries decisions and brought you reporting that informed your conclusions — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@CloOnTheLeft @PsychEnjoyer By your approach, where merely questioning the medical establishment is considered suspect and illegitimate, how would the anti-gay and anti-trans policies of the past have changed? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@CloOnTheLeft @PsychEnjoyer It seems to me that the bygone, abhorrent treatment of trans people, and gay people for that matter, underscores the importance of asking questions about what is considered the consensus view of professional associations at a given moment — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@CloOnTheLeft @PsychEnjoyer Again, is your position that multiple European nations can come to a considered position on a matter and that position should be regarded as so fringe that it's illegitimate for journalists to ask questions about it? That seems wrong to me. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@CloOnTheLeft @PsychEnjoyer But that very normal journalistic inquiry is being stigmatized by people who are unfairly vilifying Jesse and others who are merely doing their jobs diligently and thoroughly — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@CloOnTheLeft @PsychEnjoyer Surely if the Dutch and the Finns and the Brits and the Americans have different approaches in our respective systems that's good reason to question and probe who has it right — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@CloOnTheLeft @PsychEnjoyer I mean, Jesse's reporting explicitly affirms the idea that these treatments are important for some children and should not be banned--but the idea that all major medical associations agree about the edge cases Jesse reports on is contradicted by countries w/ different approaches — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@CloOnTheLeft @PsychEnjoyer The NYT reported, "there is emerging evidence of potential harm from using blockers, according to reviews of scientific papers and interviews with more than 50 doctors and academic experts around the world." That doesn't sound like a settled question with only fringe dissenters — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@CloOnTheLeft @PsychEnjoyer I keep trying to understand your position on questions and you keep changing the subject to other allegations/critiques, but we won't get anywhere if we go down that road. I'd really love to adjudicate the questions question. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@CloOnTheLeft @PsychEnjoyer So what, as you understand it, is the consensus view of the long-term effects of starting puberty blockers at 11 or 12? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@CloOnTheLeft @PsychEnjoyer (Perhaps a specific example will help us to understand one another. Do you regard the question, "What are the long-term side-effects of taking puberty blockers and/or cross-sex hormones in adolescence" as a legitimate or illegitimate area of inquiry?) — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@CloOnTheLeft @PsychEnjoyer I've read Jesse's work pretty closely and I would be curious to know what specific question he has asked that you find objectionable. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@CloOnTheLeft @PsychEnjoyer You seem to be suggesting deference to experts. But as Jesse's work shows, there is no consensus among U.S. gender clinicians on many different questions, let alone international consensus among liberal democracies. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@CloOnTheLeft @PsychEnjoyer You write, "Investigating the safety of care that is evidence-based and part of best practices seems like a pretty clear indicator of having a pre-supposed conclusion." But how would a journalist know what care constitutes evidence-based best practices without asking questions? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@CloOnTheLeft @PsychEnjoyer How would you propose that any of us produce journalism on a subject without asking questions? Which questions has Jesse asked that you regard as illegitimate? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jerrysaltz @ggreenwald @NYMag How many Republicans do you know? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
RT @SonnyBunch: Once again, my most niche-yet-accurate opinion is that Google killing Google Reader in the their effort to make Google+ a t… — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@normative The people want the Substack length version of this insight :) — PolitiTweet.org