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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@adamdavidson @Hammbear2024 All the more so because neither the public nor for that matter Lorne Michaels seem to see him that way, but lots of people in journalism, an industry where he used to be able to do no wrong while being very transgressive, seem to think it is now obvious that he is beyond the pale — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@adamdavidson @Hammbear2024 Anyway, I did not intend a hostile attack, just a probing question that might lead to an interesting rather than a fraught back and forth. I am a big consumer of standup comedy, and the treatment of Chappelle as some kind of beyond the pale outlier genuinely puzzles me. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@adamdavidson @Hammbear2024 I realize you said it made you sick to your stomach, while the other person said how could they even have him on, but it was more the "among other things* follow-up that I was asking about, which maybe had nothing to do with why you felt sick to your stomach? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@adamdavidson @Hammbear2024 In other words, my question was aimed at probing something more subtle and nuanced than FREE SPEECH but everything these days gets flattened into dumb false binaries — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@adamdavidson @Hammbear2024 ...are you guys actually saying those should be the standards for SNL monologues, or upon reflection is it just that you specifically disagree strongly with Chappelle's monolog but not because you want to apply the aforementioned standards? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@adamdavidson @Hammbear2024 a history of transgressiveness and a less than journalistic rigor in characterizing controversies. Like, George Carlin was often transgressive and took many liberties in characterizing things he disagreed with. Eddie Murphy too. So I sought to clarify... — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@adamdavidson @Hammbear2024 we are talking about a standup comedian in a late night comedy sketch show monologue, and it's striking to me that he's being criticized as if having him on was a mistake for things that would have long been expected of standup comedians on SNL, which is to say, — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@adamdavidson @Hammbear2024 Your originally Tweet pointed out (correctly) that Chappelle's characterization of Kyrie criticism lacked rigor. And Clean Observer followed up by questioning whether a comedian who'd been transgressive before should have been platformed. I found both takes worth probing because — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@adamdavidson @Hammbear2024 That question was directed at Clean Observer and did not assert or imply that any answer would constitute a transgression against free speech. But even if it had, isn't criticizing others for unduly infringing on free speech also free speech? Regardless I'm happy to say more: — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
RT @DouthatNYT: Noah Millman (@BloggerGideon) on SBF is worth your time: https://t.co/9hu5XA18KF — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
I assumed @kausmickey had stopped Tweeting because I never see him in my timeline but nope, he's just one of many people whose Tweets I'd like to see but don't for reasons I don't understand. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@Hammbear2024 @adamdavidson What about asking you to clarify your views suggests it is a "big concern" to me? I like to understand how and what others think, even when, like you, they are not especially influential, because my job is to understand a wide variety of viewpoints — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
RT @justinamash: If neither party has the votes to elect a speaker of the House, I’d be happy to serve as a nonpartisan speaker who ensures… — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@Hammbear2024 @adamdavidson But your opinion about whether it was funny is totally subjective, not an objective assessment that the show's producers share — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@Hammbear2024 @adamdavidson So your view is that comedians who are transgressive should not appear on late night comedy shows? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@adamdavidson Obviously the monologue was not rigorous in the way you suggest and many others, but did you find it less so than other SNL monologues and/or standup comedy more generally? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
Dissent. — PolitiTweet.org
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
RT @misstessowen: Wendy Rogers : "We wonder now if we were in an echo chamber" — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
RT @SamBendett: A DIY copter made in Yemen from sticks and a simple motor. Talk about drone proliferation - this is about as simple as it g… — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@Noahpinion The thing itself is unprofitable, so... — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
Magic did this once https://t.co/iF5OuEnZoo — PolitiTweet.org
James Surowiecki @JamesSurowiecki
I've always wondered why, rather than let themselves get fouled, players don't just hurl the ball high in the air i… https://t.co/3TyzZDSvHM
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
Q. How much would it cost to insure against a Trump victory in 2024? A. At what price would he rent out a Mar-a-Lago ballroom for a drag queen story hour? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
When the copy desk starts playing Truth or Dare at work... https://t.co/YoFBEGVWvb — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@sewellchan It's not illegal to raise the money for a campaign, drop out, then give that money to your son's campaign for any political office, which he can use for "campaign travel" and renting out space in Trump properties for "campaign headquarters" and "campaign events" — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@ijbailey If he's way ahead, but in a close race his ego's interest in not losing again could push him in the other direction — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
Good thread. — PolitiTweet.org
David Menschel @[email protected] @davidminpdx
1. As many of you know, I am a proponent of (and have personally benefitted from) psychedelic therapy. In 2020, he… https://t.co/pZkA6FmB0B
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
It seems like the incentive for Donald Trump is to pretend to run for president, rake in lots of money from the overcredulous people who still like him, then drop out at the last minute, screwing the GOP while finding ways to use the war chest for his personal benefit or his kids — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
"When you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything." — PolitiTweet.org
Chris Hayes @chrislhayes
He’s gonna do to the GOP what he tried to do to the Capitol.
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
I'm curious, @BFriedmanDC -- do you think that Floridians and Texans are more or less free than they were in 2002, 1992, 1982, 1972, and 1962? Were they always living in an authoritarian theocracy, as you see it, and if not, when did that begin? — PolitiTweet.org
Brandon Friedman @BFriedmanDC
Just a heads up: Millions of Democrats in Texas and Florida are actually a bit traumatized about having to raise th… https://t.co/RNhVfu0JZj
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@JeffreyASachs They truly believe "experts" can and should decide with something akin to The Science -- the technocratic instinct runs deep in progressives. — PolitiTweet.org