Conor Friedersdorf

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @sgcafan So your answer, in full, is that some unnamed people said their experience is worse and those anecdotes are decisive? — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @sgcafan I reject your claim. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @sgcafan I'm not dodging your questions. You asserted great harm has been done. I say you haven't established that. As yet you've provided no answer. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @sgcafan Okay, that's all I've got, accept or reject my claim as you will. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @sgcafan I can think of various theories but I have no basis on which to conclude which one is correct, if I've ever thought of the correct one. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @sgcafan People with iPhones won't be able to use the site on mobile, a significant impediment to accessing it. That impediment is the only reason the threat you want Apple to make has teeth. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @sgcafan Some folks have told me their experience has changed for the worse, others for the better. Neither sort of anecdote is evidence of the sorts of claims you are making, as I hope you understand. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @sgcafan I Have asked for evidence that Twitter has changed in a way that is causing more harm to people than before. You haven't yet provided any. I am open to the possibility that is happening. You are treating that as an established truth. Based on what evidence? — PolitiTweet.org

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RT @NateSilver538: The trends were already accelerating beforehand, but still think a huge mistake was the extent to which spending time ph… — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@petersuderman Does this have 3.14 ounces of rum? — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @sgcafan On blame, I have no objection to you or anyone blaming Musk for anything you like. But I am generally against Apple using its duopoly power in the app store — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @sgcafan Those are very different questions! — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @sgcafan I am not sure if more or fewer individual users are happy or unhappy under Musk than pre-Musk because I follow lots of people who make both sorts of claims. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

Three ring lights for the Instagram influencers under the sky, seven for the YouTubers in their basements of drywall, nine for Twitch FPS streamers, doomed to die, one for the App store... — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @sgcafan Can you prove that it's true? — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @sgcafan You have not provided evidence that anyone is heavily affected besides corporate advertisers. They matter less toe than tens of millions of Twitter users with iPhones. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @sgcafan I am not interested in assigning blame. Regardless of whether or not it is Musk's fault, and it may be, tens of millions will lose a tool they get utility from. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @sgcafan If you're unable to understand what I am saying we may as well give up on conversing about this topic. Maybe the next subject will prove better fodder. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @sgcafan I made no claim about "the real threat" as if there is one real threat and all other concerns are fake. I did claim that if Twitter is removed from the app store that will make it harder for many to speak and listen to one another. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @sgcafan I didn't realize we were defining harm so broadly as to encompass *less salubrious environment for corporate advertisers.* — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @sgcafan No, my position is that there are good reasons to criticize Musk and also that many people are going beyond that and making claims for which there is no evidence and generally overreacting — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @sgcafan No, I don't indulge in simplistic formulations like "the real threat" because they smuggle false premises into conversations — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @sgcafan Could you clarify the specific behavior, the harm it caused, and who the harmed party is? — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @sgcafan I agree that something drastic changes for advertisers and have not criticized anyone for pulling their ads. I totally get it. The verification mess was a huge fuckup. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @sgcafan I think your approach here is flawed in the way that it neglects considering the utility of the millions of people all over the world who rely on Twitter to communicate. As a jour almost and professor you'll be fine if Twitter goes away. Will they? — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @sgcafan It seems like there is no evidence for it but you don't want to say so. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @sgcafan Is there any evidence that there is more racism on Twitter now than there was in 2014 or 2016 or 2020? — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @sgcafan Is there any evidence that there is more racism on Twitter now than there was in 2014 or 2016 or 2020? — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @sgcafan What is your evidence for that claim? — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @sgcafan Okay. I favor the choice that doesn't deprive tens of millions of a platform they choose to use. — PolitiTweet.org