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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@MikeRTrice @rasmansa @ijbailey Yeah, if that became a norm that wound up getting some classes cancelled I'd be worried! — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@TruthsandLies14 @rasmansa @ZenOfDesign @ijbailey I absolutely think that some forms of disagreement are more valuable than others in an academic setting. Don't you? That doesn't mean I want to censor all other types. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@rasmansa @TruthsandLies14 @ZenOfDesign @ijbailey Yes, for example, I think if a professor advances an argument about critical race theory, it should be more socially acceptable to critique it by raising an empirical matter than to hurl racial insults at him. And you think that too. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@TruthsandLies14 @ZenOfDesign @rasmansa @ijbailey Again, push ack in the form of "criticism" is distinct from "condemnation" and shunning or formal administrative punishment. In academic contexts am fine with (indeed in favor of) criticizing ideas and against punishing people. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@TruthsandLies14 @ZenOfDesign @rasmansa @ijbailey Sorry, where? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@ZenOfDesign @rasmansa @TruthsandLies14 @ijbailey I never claimed that criticism is punishment. You falsely attributed that view to me. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@DKThomp I think of it every time I pack a suitcase — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@mithos343 @thebirdmaniac @rasmansa @ijbailey Easy there captain strawman — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@DKThomp Joe Vs the Volcano — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@ZenOfDesign @rasmansa @TruthsandLies14 @ijbailey No I don't think it should be more restricted. I think people with different views than me should be free to instantiate them without punishment. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@ZenOfDesign @rasmansa @TruthsandLies14 @ijbailey There are many different contexts for speech in a society. I am talking here narrowly about academia. And in that narrow area, I disagree. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
Generalizations are fine but some of these dissenters seem unaware that a quarter of their country disagrees with them and share the views of some folks in this thread. https://t.co/GQAuEAzM8S — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
This one wasn't hard to get right at the time if you applied your principles without regard to hurt feelings https://t.co/24YQLTEi8s But everyone makes mistakes and it's creditable to revisit and apologize for them. — PolitiTweet.org
Jeffrey Sachs @JeffreyASachs
Over the past decade, the ground has utterly shifted on religious freedom in America. Back then, an entire politica… https://t.co/YgNzcR5Mpd
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
RT @jbhenchman: WSJ has a bit more: Moderna wants to do a smaller 50cc dose to reach more people and have fewer side effects. FDA wants 100… — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
RT @jbhenchman: NYT article today mentions, as an aside, that the FDA is squabbling with Moderna about the right dosage for a booster and w… — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
RT @jbhenchman: They've existed for some time - Moderna completed its Phase 2 trial of a Delta booster in May 2021 - but the FDA has been d… — PolitiTweet.org
Matthew Yglesias @mattyglesias
With mRNA technology, weren't there supposed to be variant-optimized revisions to the vaccines? Whatever happened to that plan?
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
Alan Jacobs on what @onthemedia and @AndrewMorantz got wrong about John Stuart Mill https://t.co/TKghJOiQSD — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@beyerstein @marcushjohnson @rasmansa @ijbailey No, I didn't. My concerns about CRT have always been well grounded. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@beyerstein @marcushjohnson @rasmansa @ijbailey No, that was Chris Rufo. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@rasmansa @TruthsandLies14 @ijbailey It should be a societal concern because universities function poorly when ideas are not freely exchanged. Insofar as that becomes the norm, for whatever reason, either there will be broad pushback, or people like me will stop wanting to support universities. Choose. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@rasmansa @ijbailey You presume they would be voicing those opinions in class but of course usually their unpopular opinions are ones that would never come up in class. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@rasmansa @TruthsandLies14 @ijbailey The example I gave was gender, sex, gender dysphoria, desistance, etc. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@TruthsandLies14 @rasmansa @ijbailey Yes, there are many. Gender is one I mentioned elsewhere. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@rasmansa @ijbailey If you think it's fine for college courses to be judged and valued in the way popularity among teenagers is that's where we disagree! — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
Say it's typical. We've allowed administrators to seize control of universities from faculty in ways that undermine core academic values while costing *a ton of money.* And they have every incentive to keep growing their ranks. — PolitiTweet.org
Ron Stack @ronstack
@conor64 Well put, and Yale certainly isn’t alone in that
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@rasmansa @ijbailey Or that the bureaucracies of their universities will use the pretense of advancing social justice to launch long, stressful, Kafkaesque investigations of them. Or that students will pressure one another to not take their courses. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@ijbailey That's an absurd standard. I doubt there's an issue that isn't being debate in North Korea today. I can name all sorts of issues on which tenured professors fear speaking about publicly despite having expertise to offer. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
I agree with this. The viral videos of gleeful unmasked jerks accosting retail employees at indoor businesses with perfectly reasonable mask mandates are the concrete illustration that comes to mind. — PolitiTweet.org
Randall Parker #VaccinesForMoreViruses @futurepundit
@clairlemon @conor64 I think it's a question of how much you need to inconvenience yourself to avoid violating the… https://t.co/7F8rLoPhXR
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
I think that along with having some very fine features, Yale isn't leftist so much as it is a bastion of corporatist bureaucrats that sometimes puts the consumerist whims of students above values like faculty governance and truth-seeking. — PolitiTweet.org
Jason Stanley @jasonintrator
Anyone who thinks Yale University is a bastion of leftist thought is delusional. I don’t know what else to say. The… https://t.co/JVLPWiwfx8
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jasonintrator No, I'm not. I don't believe there to be such a moral panic at Yale. But maybe there is one and you'd get in trouble just for giving examples? But that would seem to validate the conclusion that administrators are chilling speech at Yale, not that such worries are overblown — PolitiTweet.org
