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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
4. That's why *this* is the sort of piece I want to see more of https://t.co/Yl8xBFDO2J — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
3. On the other hand, the subset of people who've turned to Ivermectin does overlap heavily with people who *don't trust expert consensus* but *are willing to think through things* (however good or bad at that they are) to reach their own conclusions. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
2. Likewise, the premise that one *must* be acting in bad faith and/or be worthy of condemnation for believing in the promise of Ivermectin obviously rings hollow to *people who believe Ivermectin has promise to treat Covid* — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
1. While I have long believed that e.g. Tucker Carlson is acting in bad faith on many things, I don't think, e.g., Joe Rogan is acting in bad faith on Ivermectin, and condemning people who are wrong in damaging ways but are acting in good faith automatically loses a lot of people — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
I've been thinking a lot about this. I share @radleybalko's view that far more damage is being done by Tucker Carlson (e.g.) than people making horse paste jokes. I disagree that a profusion of condemnatory pieces would improve things. Here's my thinking for your consideration: — PolitiTweet.org
Radley Balko @radleybalko
If you’re really concerned about persuasion, for every “stop making horse paste jokes” essay, you should be writing… https://t.co/ZuSjTDj9tB
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
RT @mattyglesias: After the court-ordered end to stop and frisk, the NYPD shifted to a gang-takedown strategy informed by cooperation with… — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@Chakraborty_UNC @zfurnas That outcome would not surprise me. In interviews I've often had to draw people out for awhile to pinpoint why they're self censoring and what about. And it has never been the bigoted stuff many progressives assume — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@Chakraborty_UNC @zfurnas I don't have a personal budget for *large scale social science survey* or any expertise in designing or executing such a survey... is what's stopping me — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@zfurnas @Chakraborty_UNC If such a survey were done I'd absolutely be interested in the results. I'm not sure what value I'd add in actually conducting it? But tell me what you were thinking — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@Chakraborty_UNC I would love to do this — PolitiTweet.org
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@olgakhazan Also see this fascinating study https://t.co/ku0Hgh78Ku — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@olgakhazan I think a lot of people who grew up with siblings and liked it want to give their own kids that same experience. Also, the marginal cost of the second kid is much, much lower in lifestyle change/tradeoffs. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
Two more emails from Down Under from very different perspectives: https://t.co/LDDSwvVWce — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@markgdunstan Hi Mark, although the article was accurate as written I could and should have phrased that part a bit better to stop readers unfamiliar with the distinction from drawing a partly false conclusion, and we updated the passage to remedy that flaw. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@thomaschattwill @MsMelChen I disagree with a lot of the piece but found this part heartening: "It will ultimately require that we discard the modern notion of race, the biological fiction that there is something called a 'Black person' or a 'White person' or an 'Asian person.'" — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
Fair-minded thread on Australia by the always thoughtful @joshzepps. I hope he's right that the goals will be reached and that the goalposts won't move this fall. (And that the facial recognition plus geolocation app doesn't creep into other uses.) — PolitiTweet.org
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1. Australia’s lockdowns are having a viral moment in the US. This thread provides essential context for American f… https://t.co/2Ugkicp5Va
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@BarfolomewMawg TFW a guy with a Spaceballs avatar and two barf references in his profile uses a GIF to call *you* anti-intellectual. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@JaniceBrauner @mattyglesias Okay fair but since he started the thread aren't you dinging him for failing to cover something beyond the narrow point he wanted to make, about the double standard in conservative media, criticism, even though you acknowledge on other occasions he is critical of the MSM? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@JaniceBrauner @mattyglesias I think Matt has a pretty solid record of critiquing bad MSM journalism and that he raises a correct and legitimate point about the poor quality of Fox News and the double standard many conservatives apply to conservative journalism, which you've evaded addressing yourself — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@rasmansa @jesseclain @mithos343 @thebirdmaniac @ijbailey That isn't quite right either, I said nothing about "protected socially," whatever that means, and insofar as scholarship is poor quality, calling them names like "low quality scholar" is substantive and warranted. W that I'm going to call this before I am misrepresented further — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@rasmansa @jesseclain @mithos343 @thebirdmaniac @ijbailey In my estimation, your approach is undermining rather than helping to defeat wrongheaded and damaging ideas. That is the root of our disagreement. Unlike you, I won't misleadingly frame it in a way that makes it seem like you are more accepting of the bad idea as a result. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@rasmansa @jesseclain @mithos343 @thebirdmaniac @ijbailey Again, you are misrepresenting my position, which is not about which ideas are wrongheaded, but about how best to refute wrongheaded ideas. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@rasmansa @jesseclain @mithos343 @thebirdmaniac @ijbailey I worked for Andrew perhaps a decade after he controversially aired a debate on a book I hadn't and still haven't read, and it never came up in my work, which was reading things Andrew might want to opine on and teeing him up to do so. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@studentactivism Of course, freewheeling mode is gonna be largely if not entirely outside the classroom — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@rasmansa @jesseclain @mithos343 @thebirdmaniac @ijbailey the child porn hypothetical with privacy and the murder Hitler hypothetical. *Let me test the useful overall principal by conjuring the most abhorrent possible hypothetical I can, however poorly it maps onto the actual disputes that tend to happen.* — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@rasmansa @jesseclain @mithos343 @thebirdmaniac @ijbailey I know this particular corner of the academic freedom debate interests you, but I must say it's never the case I'm thinking of when the issues actually come up in controversies I care about, and at times it reminds me of the ticking time bomb hypothetical with torture and — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@AnneCW @rasmansa @mithos343 @thebirdmaniac @ijbailey I think you misunderstand? I believe that all humans are created equal regardless of race. I think it is fine and indeed good to condemn the value judgment that one race is inherently superior to another. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@thebirdmaniac @rasmansa @mithos343 @ijbailey I am happy to defend Communists in economics departments, and few ideas have done more real world damage or been more thoroughly discredited than Communists. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@rasmansa @mithos343 @thebirdmaniac @ijbailey I think disputes over value judgments are different than disputes over empirical questions, in that w/r/t the latter, announcing beforehand that one side will be shunned undermines faith in the conclusions *even when your side is right on the merits*, which is a bad dynamic — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@rasmansa @mithos343 @thebirdmaniac @ijbailey Right, then you went astray by talking about *ideas* that I think *should be protected* when I made no such claims. No *ideas* should be *protected* and some of the ideas under discussion I want destroyed on the merits. — PolitiTweet.org