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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@AnneCW @NateMonroeTU Anne: the whole point of the thread was an argument against this disdainfully ridiculing others. And I certainly think people in the cities and exurbs where I've spent my life unwisely ingest all sorts of substances! — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@RVAwonk *most — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@RVAwonk The original argument wasn't about whether they are victims are not, it was about how to lost effectively persuade people not to rely on Ivermectin. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jwebbstevens @EoinHiggins_ @normative @RadioFreeTom @WojtechBear @philipbladen1 I'd much prefer no more engagement on this Tweet deep in a thread with two or three people, thanks! — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@david4potus2020 @radleybalko @normative @RadioFreeTom @WojtechBear @philipbladen1 I screenshoted and reposted, and I made no such claim about farmers. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@bleakfacts @MaggieEThornton Where did I say people shouldn't report on it? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@david4potus2020 @radleybalko @normative @RadioFreeTom @WojtechBear @philipbladen1 No, the thread that started this included me actively urging people against taking Ivermectin to protect against Covid, but that context was lost in the quote of a single tweet from a long thread — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@NateMonroeTU Fair enough, I should have found a phrase less ambiguous and specified my touchstones — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@MaggieEThornton I do indeed see a difference — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@KevinReuning I mean, 71 percent of vets reporting misuse seems consistent with it being common. I certainly didn't intend to claim it's *the majority practice* — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
I'm open to being persuaded that's wrong, and will follow up more tomorrow (though it doesn't bear much on the main point of the thread it came in) but the folks suggesting the claim is some sort of denigration of rural America are wrong. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
My impression from reporting in Inland Empire horse country and the Central Valley and talking to people in NY horse country is that, for reasons of both drug abuse and poor people trying to access stuff with the same active ingredient, human use of veterinary drugs happens often — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
Lots of folks quoting the first Tweet here stripped of the context of the second, I'm deleting and reposting together. Also a lot of dispute about whether human use of veterinary drugs is in fact common. (Short thread.) https://t.co/A2Ppcf4xkE — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@JamesSurowiecki @normative @RadioFreeTom @WojtechBear @philipbladen1 I agree. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@SpencerHH @normative @RadioFreeTom @WojtechBear @philipbladen1 That was not the claim at all. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@Nate_Housley @normative @RadioFreeTom @WojtechBear @philipbladen1 Ketamine. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@StevenHLawson I agree. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@bksnav @radleybalko @normative @RadioFreeTom @WojtechBear @philipbladen1 No I'm not but this is rather far afield from my core point in any case — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@gringostani @normative @RadioFreeTom @WojtechBear @philipbladen1 No I just think they have the most access to veterinary drugs with the consequence that crossover use happens there somewhat more. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@radleybalko @normative @RadioFreeTom @WojtechBear @philipbladen1 It was a thing in Inland Empire horse country when I reported there, and horse drugs were definitely stolen and used both recreationally and as painkillers among Central Valley folks I've interviewed. Also stories like this: https://t.co/Tg67TigfSD — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@PJMatt It is not factually bullshit. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@blu3r4d0n Here is one example with the very drug under discussion https://t.co/evfp4NgPgf — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@grace_panetta This isn't even the first Ivermectin controversy https://t.co/evfp4NgPgf — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@IHateSameer https://t.co/5oQ5rnLaj9 — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@armando_rojas @normative @RadioFreeTom @WojtechBear @philipbladen1 Is your claim that this doesn't happen? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@normative @RadioFreeTom @graedus29 @WojtechBear @philipbladen1 Is there so much as a fringe white paper, nevermind a funded study or actual public health campaign, taking that approach? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@normative @RadioFreeTom @graedus29 @WojtechBear @philipbladen1 the easier, fun, socially rewarding thing is also virtuous, so they convince themselves that Twitter mockery is more effective than the tedious hard work and patient engagement thing. But it's not. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@normative @RadioFreeTom @graedus29 @WojtechBear @philipbladen1 Mocking people who take Ivermectin is much easier, much more fun, and much more socially rewarded than the tedious hard work of patiently walking through the evidence, addressing counterarguments, and fielding questions with accurate answers. And people want to feel like — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@RadioFreeTom @normative @graedus29 @WojtechBear @philipbladen1 "Here's the science and the doctors" is an appeal to authority. That's not what I'm urging. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@normative @RadioFreeTom @WojtechBear @philipbladen1 If so I agree that's a totally different analysis. — PolitiTweet.org
