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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
Right. My account of what sometimes happens is mockery gets celebrated by the in group, giving a false impression of efficacy, but fuels negative polarization wrt the outgroup, and is in fact counterproductive, especially when the action (cast a vote, get a vaccine) is hideable — PolitiTweet.org
Sulla Felix @SullaFelix8
@conor64 Bad online debate isn't for the participants its for the audience. The discursive purpose of mockery is to… https://t.co/loKI79oWCf
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@benshapiro On what grounds do you think it's straightforwardly unconstitutional? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@gorskon I neither declared them equivalent nor tried to draw attention away from one thing by saying what about another. Your analysis here is incorrect — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@gorskon I do indeed see how they are unalike. Do you see how both implicate privacy rights, even if the tradeoffs are different? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
A q for folks on the other side of the *Is disdainful mockery of others online an effective behavioral intervention?* debate: have you personally ever supported a pol or policy or taken an action you believed to be wrong because others mocked you/what you believed was right? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
RT @DLind: This is how you do local immigration journalism. https://t.co/xBssz21t9i — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
RT @DLind: This is how you do local immigration journalism. https://t.co/xBssz21t9i — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
Often it's the criminal defendants the public likes least who most powerfully shape the degree of cruelty all defendants face. I don't know if ankle monitors are constantly beeping, but if so, we should fix that design flaw so as to avoid needless cruelty to all defendants. — PolitiTweet.org
Jeff Jarvis @jeffjarvis
Such entitled babies. An alleged Capitol rioter says his ankle monitor beeps too loudly. He wants a judge to let h… https://t.co/vF7zax5PEW
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
RT @DavidAFrench: If you want to join OSHA/Vaccine Twitter, this @CassSunstein article "Is OSHA Unconstitutional" is a good launching pad.… — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@mattyglesias Jeb reminiscing on how his brother "kept us safe" that day was really something — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
RT @mattyglesias: @conor64 I believe it's the Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970 that delegated the authority to make workplace saf… — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jilliancyork @kimmaicutler I think the root of the suffering is loving in a low trust society, and that we will indeed suffer for it, alas, whatever the president does and the courts decide; and that rebuilding trust legitimately is an overlooked and urgent project. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jilliancyork @kimmaicutler Sure, countries are free to have vaccination mandates to enter (though the EU also accepts negative test and in some countries proof of recovery now). I totally agree vaccination itself is, practically speaking, a slam dunk. That doesn't change the thorny legal issues. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
On what basis is this *the president will order* as opposed to *Congress passed a law declaring...*? — PolitiTweet.org
Patsy Widakuswara @pwidakuswara
The Biden admin w/ enforce "substantial fines up to nearly $14,000 per violation" to employers that don't abide by… https://t.co/xOX1DytKCG
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jilliancyork @kimmaicutler This isn't narrowly focused on Roe and I don't agree with everything in it but it does, I think, do a good job capturing how both public attitudes and legal precedent has changed since the vaccine mandate precedents were set in the early 1900s https://t.co/KG4XsCFaK1 — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@SeanTrende Yep — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@Popehat @KHicksEfficient It is neither productive to mock nor to reason with that. I block accounts who Tweet at me like that. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
sex work and organ donation and drug laws and all sorts of other controversial policy matters where a consistent embrace of the privacy rights some invoke selectively would yield very different outcomes. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
I agree that they're different issues and I don't believe it's impossible to square any combination of positions on them, but I also think privacy rights in medicine have a powerful appeal, and are also invoked selectively, not just with regard to abortion or vaccines, but also — PolitiTweet.org
Galway Curiousblue @iamcuriousblue
@conor64 You're getting a lot of shit for this, and for my part I do think abortion and vaccination are different b… https://t.co/NnZKuAti6R
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@ErinSatie Yes I think this is absolutely right RE the slogan and context. I'd only add that I do think the *medical decisions are a private thing between my doctor and me* instinct is also intuitively powerful and widely embraced, which is another wrinkle — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@ErinSatie Thanks, I've heard similar from a lot of people in the last few days, but understandably, not a lot who want to go on the record! — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@elnathan_john People operate as if they believe their personally boosting or denigrating an obscure Tweet is going to shape policy or popular attitudes on the most important questions of the day, so the mode of conversation is supplanted by the mode of victory seeking — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@chris_notcapn I agree that private companies can mandate vaccines. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@KHicksEfficient Disagreeing is always fine. When I say yelling, this is an example what informs my reaction https://t.co/QDJzJAFK4j — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jasonintrator You're sure describing a lot of people as dangerous lately. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@JakeWojtowicz That isn't what I said. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@RJPilkenton I have that same concern but I'm not sure if it's right or not — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@moids @noUpside I think it does apply and believe employer mandates should be legal. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
Living in a diverse, pluralistic society is most difficult amid differences of opinion on matters w/ life and death implications. Perhaps any associated anger, frustration or anxiety you feel will be eased by yelling at me on Twitter, where my words dictate U.S. policy. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@JasonNethercut Maybe! Or maybe the Supreme Court will change both. I would not bet on the outcome because I am not sure what it will be. — PolitiTweet.org
