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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@DBRodriguez5 @AnthonyMKreis @GGKrishnamoomoo @espinsegall @CJSprigman I wasn't making an opaque point. Williams's logic was incorrect. He gave a specious analysis of how one might resolve the question of if there is or isn't a right to something. The 10th amendment succinctly illustrates his incorrectness. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey https://t.co/ETSJutm1yP — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@PCritty @mehdirhasan Where have I denied it? — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@TruthsandLies14 @ASFleischman @ijbailey Yes. They're always making me turn off my phone. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey That the question of whether a thing is Constitutionally protected can be adjudicated by poring over the document and verifying there is no specific mention of that thing. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey It feels like the Trump years to me in that T would say something dumb, then a journalist attempting to refute it would introduce falsehoods or specious logic into coverage, then others calling out those falsehoods or specious logic would be unfairly tarred as Trump apologists — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey The call-out used specious logic. That is worth flagging. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ASFleischman @TruthsandLies14 @ijbailey Same. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@jdmortenson @mjs_DC Williams' claim was not, "The commerce clause clearly allows..." If he had I would not have responded as I did. What I am disputing is the logic that *x isn't mentioned so you have no right to do it*, a logic that the Founders explicitly rejected with the 10th — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@mehdirhasan Your error here is to assume that there is or can only be one single threat to free speech, when in fact, there can be many simultaneous threats to it. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@mehdirhasan I deny several features of your argument, so you're already wrong on the "undeniable" claim. If you'd like to pick one among *minor* and *trivial* or dive in on why nonviolent things can be worth opposing I'm happy to discuss. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@mjs_DC I'm implying that Brian Williams logic--*I can find no mention of this in the Constitution, therefore...*--does not hold by the specific language of the Constitution. On the actual matter at hand, I think private airlines can and should impose mandates. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@DBRodriguez5 @AnthonyMKreis @GGKrishnamoomoo @espinsegall @CJSprigman The Society for the Promulgation of the Tenth Amendment has always been all around you, biding our time. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @ASFleischman He is saying that if you think there is a Constitutional basis to challenge the No Fly list that should complicate your notion of whether there is, in fact, any basis for claiming a right to fly — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey It seems like we often have these misunderstandings when I want to make a discrete claim and you presume I'm engaged in support of whatever side you think it cuts directionally. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@dan_billings I agree airlines can use their power to stop unvaccinated people from flying and I think that they should. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey I'm not defending his claim. As I've said, I favor airlines mandating proof of vaccine or recovery. On the other hand, does the Constitution offer any protection against the federal govt stripping someone's ability to travel by air? Williams' method of answering is silly too — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

On the other hand, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." — PolitiTweet.org

Sarah Reese Jones @PoliticusSarah

Brian Williams on Madison Cawthorn's claim of a constitutional right to air travel, "We checked the constitution, n… https://t.co/R9SCwLR3te

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@philipoforange What if instead the U.S. spearheaded a new Marshall Plan that leveraged existing gyro and doner kebab infrastructure, Italy's Lebanese population, and Spain's language expertise to build a self-sustaining EU capacity to produce delicious Al Pastor tacos? — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@DKThomp There should be a Daily Mirror weekend magazine insert called *Sensational Journalism!* — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@mattyglesias I didn't know that until folks started sending me the New Yorker article, but the photos are Marseille — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@rasmansa @chrislhayes @dylanmatt And yet Republicans are making the mirror image claim. And in their defense, in 2008, 2016 and 2020, I publicly supported the Democratic presidential candidate. But you're correct that I am not a Democrat. I am not a Republican either, and it isn't a close call. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

This is not how I would have executed this concept. https://t.co/jfrjtlpAXZ — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@dstreeverVPM @DMoritzRabson If you look at the Tweet I was responding to, you'll see I was arguing with it in the language and framework it put forth. I am not performing anything. I do, in fact, try my utmost to be intellectually honest, and have no allegiance to any political party. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@chrislhayes @dylanmatt (And to be clear about the context, Rufo, who I'm arguing with, is talking about The Two U.S. Parties, and his belief that if you have objections to excesses that he calls CRT, it's irresponsible of you to not be a Team R partisan. Not a claim about any cause or attachment.) — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@SarahTheHaider Yep. Thorny tradeoffs, especially when stretched out across history. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@davedette Not a special intellectual honesty. Lots of people are intellectually honest. And lots of people are dishonest partisans. There is no claim to uniqueness in the Tweet at all. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@billybobdavinci @chrislhayes @dylanmatt I didn't set out to frame things in terms of "transcendance"-I'm using the formulation of the person I was arguing with. That said, it would be grandiose to claim to transcend (say) bias, but not grandiose to claim to transcend (say) single gender friendships. The claim matters. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@dylanmatt If you really thought *that* you'd have no way to distinguish yourself from (say) Breitbart. They just write posts! Some at Vox would instead liken you to a candid shepherd https://t.co/9xY6aiBJ1A I prefer my formulation, for myself. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@chrislhayes @dylanmatt I don't think "I transcend partisanship" is a claim that lacks perspective. But if you disagree, for which party is it that you think I'm a partisan? I can't think of one that would acknowledge me as a legitimate partisan voice for them. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 17, 2021