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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jdvdub @hannahgais @mehdirhasan I'm happy to let others judge which of us in this exchange is guilty of that, and also happy with the fellow writers who esteem and dislike my work--but I'd be disconsolate if either of the groups ever reversed themselves! — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jdvdub @hannahgais @mehdirhasan I did talk to students but it's been a long time so I can't say who from memory. in any case, after much tedious review of your critique, I'm glad to be reassured my piece was correct. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jdvdub @hannahgais @mehdirhasan "How could *they* just throw out something..." You think the food had "they" pronouns? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@YAppelbaum Atlantic caps are in this autumn, your moment has arrived! — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jdvdub @hannahgais @mehdirhasan What is my reason for believing that the Oberlin students alienated millions I'm the way they framed their complaints? The fact that they were made fun of in print and on television and on the radio before I wrote my piece to audiences that felt alienated by their framing. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jdvdub @hannahgais @mehdirhasan The student berated the worker in the newspaper. I didn't report other interactions because I only learned about them later, but Freddie was referencing the angry student critiques that promoted the meeting with management. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jdvdub @hannahgais @mehdirhasan Sigh. You aren't specifying a misrepresentation. All you've said is you don't like "berate" in Freddie's tweet, which I don't even offer as my conclusion. That's nitpickikg. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jdvdub @hannahgais @mehdirhasan https://t.co/QPvLNchiZV — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jdvdub @hannahgais @mehdirhasan What substantive criticism didn't I respond to? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jdvdub @hannahgais @mehdirhasan The piece repeatedly notes the relative I significance of the story and specifies why it is nevertheless worth discussing. you can disagree with the latter assessment. Stop conflating that with getting the story wrong. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jdvdub @hannahgais @mehdirhasan Anyway, this is, as I said, nitpicking. And we've litigated it. I hope you understand why I believe the story to be correct, having heard you out. And I hope you'll acknowledge how mischaracterized my piece is even if you disagree with it — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jdvdub @hannahgais @mehdirhasan Berate means "scold or criticize angrily." https://t.co/qDHb6GkcHu Isn't this article students scolding and criticizing angrily? I mean, berate was Freddy's word, but "wild"? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jdvdub @hannahgais @mehdirhasan It is an opinion piece, so yes, I do editorialize throughout. But no, I do not do so without reporting, and I do not get the story wrong. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jdvdub @hannahgais @mehdirhasan That aside, you are nitpicking because your original claims about my article were just wrong. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jdvdub @hannahgais @mehdirhasan The whole original newspaper article was berating the workers who cooled the food for being inauthentic and appropriative. I later heard from workers who read the piece who did feel berated. And I quoted Freddie in a section analyzing critical responses, then offering my own — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jdvdub @hannahgais @mehdirhasan As well, the article is more full of context, friendly to students, and nuanced than it's ignorant critics represent in their bad faith posts. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jdvdub @hannahgais @mehdirhasan My story captured the truth of the situation more accurately than the Vox piece you judged better without doing any reporting yourself or knowing what you're talking about. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jdvdub @hannahgais @mehdirhasan Sly goalpost shifting to distract from your naive and credulous belief that the workers forced by their managers to meet with upset liberal arts college students framing their complaints in terms of social justice were just happy go lucky participants in a constructive dialog — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jdvdub @hannahgais @mehdirhasan What do you mean it didn't happen? Wage workers were forced by management to meet with students and listen to their critique of the food. Do you think the workers were unworried about that and unannoyed by it? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jdvdub @hannahgais @mehdirhasan I have spoken to a cafeteria worker who complained to me about his frustration with students! I did the reporting on this and you haven't. You're just credulously applying Vox analysis to my piece in a vague and slippery way — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jdvdub @hannahgais @mehdirhasan Again, what specifically is wrong? Screenshot the paragraph. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jdvdub @hannahgais @mehdirhasan What specifically is a mischaracterization? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jdvdub @hannahgais @mehdirhasan Reread my story and you will see that you are incorrect. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jdvdub @hannahgais @mehdirhasan But because your assessment of my work is rooted in ignorant impression instead of accurate memory of the thing itself, you get it wrong — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jdvdub @hannahgais @mehdirhasan Yes, I read that story, and I reread my story, and my editor did too, and my story was correct, and unbeknownst to observers like you who didn't bother to reread it, it includes context like https://t.co/LCPylf8lFB — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jdvdub @hannahgais @mehdirhasan Again, I did not get the story wrong, that is incorrect. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jdvdub @hannahgais @mehdirhasan I did not get it wrong at all. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@pegobry Qualifications: middle name, Renier; recently critical of Australia. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@pegobry I'm on the ground in Marseille if I can help patch things up — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
The cost of drone strikes is more than dead innocents too. https://t.co/cTO39qiFqc — PolitiTweet.org
