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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@NewLiberalsPod I think it depends on the platform — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@MaybeItsSteve Sure but lots of progressives believe that fetuses are lives but nevertheless believe women's autonomy is so important that abortion ought to be legal. For "a fetus is a clump of cells" folks this won't make a difference, admittedly — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@HughHansen Indeed it is — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

If you're a progressive who doesn't see how anyone objects to public health emergency measures that infringe on civil liberties, but only to successfully prevent many deaths, here's the example that might change your outlook: https://t.co/rgf7HoQKbj https://t.co/fG12c8XkXN — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@RpwWilliams Wonderful. Glad you shared and are wise enough to enjoy it! — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

He's not exaggerating. Nolte: "The organized left is deliberately putting unvaccinated Trump supporters in an impossible position where they can either NOT get a life-saving vaccine or CAN feel like cucks caving to the ugliest, smuggest bullies in the world." — PolitiTweet.org

Tom Nichols @RadioFreeTom

Let us consider for a moment what one of Breitbart's Big Thinkers is admitting 1. Vaccines work 2. Vax resistance i… https://t.co/bWzdUzQSWW

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@PatriciaCrunk1 @rasmansa Maybe you could consider heroes to be people who achieved great moral progress in spite of their imperfections instead of people with no significant imperfections — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@DKThomp They need a Big Straussian vertical — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@econstatTeacher @rasmansa I was thinking of a literal pedestal with a statue atop it, since that's the image they chose for the Tweet — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

More: https://t.co/NzLwa9m8HA — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@infoshaman I read the column and know he did not say what that critic lambasted him for. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

Ongoing activist campaigns cast vaping, racism, abortion, opioid use, campus sexual assault, youth suicide, air pollution, pornography, alcohol abuse, and more as public-health emergencies. But declaring them so would undermine deliberative democracy. https://t.co/rgf7Hoz8MJ — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@leahmcelrath You've already abandoned "a ghoulish piece of pro-mass death propaganda" and shifted to "minimizing mass death." But is that even true? I don't think so. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

Sometimes what seems like polarization is actually just bad reading comprehension. Of course neither Ross nor the NYT oped page is propagandizing for mass death. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@NickJFaleris @rasmansa Putting a statue on a pedestal is an act of acknowledging good. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@jasonintrator @ijbailey @GregGrandin What percentage of your students, in your estimation, were taught hagiographic Am history in high school? — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@jasonintrator @ijbailey @GregGrandin Well again, I would urge the smartest rather than the harshest criticism, but IMHO the biggest 1619 Project flaws were not in that essay. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@jasonintrator @ijbailey @GregGrandin I guess I would say that I hope you teach at least some of the highest quality backlash, harsh or not, hard to know what I'd think not knowing what is in that parenthetical. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@jasonintrator @eric_knowles @GregGrandin It would be an interesting experiment for us to read whatever American history textbook they use at public high schools in Dallas or Waco or Houston — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@eric_knowles @jasonintrator @GregGrandin Likewise I would be curious to know if Tulsa is in fact omitted from textbooks, I have no idea. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@jasonintrator @GregGrandin For your purposes this might be of interest https://t.co/CNvJUVYX5c — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@eric_knowles @jasonintrator @GregGrandin I think the folks who think Am history as hagiography are about three decades out of date for much of America, though no doubt pockets of Lost Causism remain. It would be interesting to look at a particular text book from Texas. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@jasonintrator @ijbailey @GregGrandin I had nice things to say about the lead essay in my piece on the project https://t.co/fh6JjqnGon — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@jasonintrator @ijbailey @GregGrandin "So incensed"? I urged that it be taught alongside its strongest critics. The only related thing that in fact did incense me were the flagrant falsehoods spread on TV and in now deleted tweets about whether the project ever claimed 1619 was the true founding. That was incensing. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@jasonintrator @eric_knowles @GregGrandin This is going to cause you to erroneously mistrust a lot of Californians. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @jasonintrator @GregGrandin It was something about the way he phrased his tweet combined with knowing that he isn't a historian and probably the way that he sometimes talks about fascism, too. But if he tells me that he is *of course* teaching contrary historical accounts too I'll believe him. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@eric_knowles @jasonintrator @GregGrandin I'm not sure how old you are but I'm 41 and the American history I learned in school was not hagiographic — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @jasonintrator @GregGrandin As you know, prominent historians have raised many other objections. I'm not saying don't teach it. I'm saying teach it with its most formidable critics, like everything else. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@jasonintrator @GregGrandin And *ignoring the fact checker.* There are, of course, many other historians who've contested other facts in the piece. If you're teaching the 1619 Project alone without any of the best critiques of it, that's bad, is the bigger point. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@jasonintrator @GregGrandin Are you saying that Harris isn't a great historian? The 1619 Project asserts many things that are contested among great historians. If you're going to reach it as history, you should teach its formidable critics, too. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Sept. 19, 2021