Conor Friedersdorf

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@vituperativeerb @NonsenSegue There is no existing comedy special that I want removed from Netflix or HBO or whatever. Others do, so they're unhappy with the status quo. I'd like to know how many comedy specials will go if their standards are applied. So I want to know their standards. — PolitiTweet.org

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@toddkiehn Not a Substack! — PolitiTweet.org

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@vituperativeerb @NonsenSegue The point isn't to craft a written policy, it's to get as close as possible to understanding the actual lines. You raised Richard Spencer, so I answered you, but I think that detour led us astray, not closer to what I'm trying to probe — PolitiTweet.org

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@vituperativeerb Wasn't directed at you! — PolitiTweet.org

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@KHeslerINDY Admitted! — PolitiTweet.org

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@vituperativeerb @NonsenSegue Well, he's not a comedian, so he's out. He may or may not be a white supremacist. In any case, my standard didn't rely on subjective assessments of ideology, it specified leaders of a white supremacist organization. — PolitiTweet.org

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@vituperativeerb @NonsenSegue Well I'd want to know what that means and who decides because what constitutes transphobia is much more subjective and contested than whether a person is the leader of a white supremacist organization, so I feel like people are clearer on what's in and out by that standard. — PolitiTweet.org

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I have something in the works that will allow for more constructive conversations than does this platform and I'm really looking forward to sharing it. Stay tuned. — PolitiTweet.org

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@vituperativeerb @NonsenSegue I am asking for the standards that inform the judgment — PolitiTweet.org

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@vituperativeerb @NonsenSegue I have just done it! My policy applies not just to Spencer, but also the head of the kkk and the Neo Nazis, etcetera. I agree that I wouldn't give Richard Spencer a special and I've articulated the honest reasons why in a way that I'd happily apply generally — PolitiTweet.org

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@vituperativeerb @NonsenSegue My streaming platform would happily articulate a policy of no comedy specials for leaders of white supremacist organizations or for non comedians or especially of both. — PolitiTweet.org

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@vituperativeerb @NonsenSegue This thread began with a question about where they would draw the line, which no one has clarified. — PolitiTweet.org

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@vituperativeerb @NonsenSegue No, I don't think they should give a white supremacist leader, or a non comedian, or especially both, a comedy special. — PolitiTweet.org

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@vituperativeerb @NonsenSegue I think Netflix would take the stance that comedy specials aren't harmful, full stop — PolitiTweet.org

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@mcbyrne @ikebarinholtz Yes https://t.co/E7Sn1Mz4mW When was the last time you spoke out about the disinvitation of someone who doesn't share your politics — PolitiTweet.org

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@jaycaspiankang It's just a straight up misrepresentation of your position and everyone sees that. — PolitiTweet.org

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@jduffyrice @mattpacenza Given the amount of discourse the special has generated I don't think it's credible to argue that it hasn't added anything to the discourse so I ignored that part. — PolitiTweet.org

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@vituperativeerb @NonsenSegue I don't expect everyone to do that. I asked the question hoping a few people would do it. Quite a strawman. — PolitiTweet.org

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Speaker disinvitations: still happening, still bad. https://t.co/ZIEnKCtLF2 — PolitiTweet.org

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@xeni @JYuter @TheRaDR @RutiRegan My condolences, I'm so sorry this happened. — PolitiTweet.org

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@evefairbanks @franklinleonard @juliaioffe Now I want a whole Lexicon Valley episode on this — PolitiTweet.org

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Let's try this again absent the word everyone is contesting while not answering. If you think Netflix should have never aired or should remove the Chappelle special: how would you phrase the general policy you want streaming platforms to apply for comedy specials? — PolitiTweet.org

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@franklinleonard @originalspin So... a very normal thing to ask? — PolitiTweet.org

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@evefairbanks @franklinleonard @juliaioffe I get your point, I just have a different sense of what censor implies. E.g. I also think *The New York Times will review its policy on whether to censor four letter words in quotations* is a standard usage — PolitiTweet.org

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@franklinleonard @originalspin Yes, or to be more precise, I was asking critics of how Netflix does it to articulate the standards that they wish it would use instead of the status quo — PolitiTweet.org

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@jduffyrice @mattpacenza I don't think they are making decisions based on their personal sense of humor. — PolitiTweet.org

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@franklinleonard @originalspin Yes. To wit: A question for folks who think Netflix should have never aired or should remove the Chappelle special: how would you phrase the general policy that you want streaming platforms to rely on when deciding whether or not to take one of those actions? — PolitiTweet.org

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@franklinleonard @evefairbanks @juliaioffe Yes, that works, I'm just saying that and my version would have conveyed the same meaning to every reader as far as I can tell — PolitiTweet.org

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@evefairbanks @juliaioffe @franklinleonard I'd have to search around, maybe you're right and my sense of the word is off. The usage *Civic leaders begged Charlie Hebdo to censor the cartoon it was preparing to run* scans to me but I could be wrong — PolitiTweet.org

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@franklinleonard @originalspin Because I can rephrase the original question without that word and have it retain the same meaning — PolitiTweet.org