Conor Friedersdorf

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@jandersen @wesyang "This upset"? I'm making silly CSN jokes. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@johnstodder @wesyang There's battle lines being drawn. Nobody's right if everybody's wrong. — PolitiTweet.org

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Thanks to my nephew I have now seen every episode of Dug Days approximately 6,782 times. And you know, it's pretty damned good. — PolitiTweet.org

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2022: Makes new album with Crazyhorse. 2023: Rejoins Spotify. 2024: Quits again. 2025: Releases solo acoustic album 2026: Joins Spotify reunion tour 2027: Releases Rockin' in the Successor Ideology World in unexpected collaboration with @wesyang — PolitiTweet.org

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@JamesSurowiecki @frankjdistefano (FWIW I do think Joe Rogan should do more than he does to identify and correct inaccurate statements.) — PolitiTweet.org

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@JamesSurowiecki @frankjdistefano I think we both agree that press conferences and town halls are formats with benefits exceeding costs despite the fact that they frequently result in the utterance of misinformation that reaches millions of people. But we disagree about unedited conversation podcasts. — PolitiTweet.org

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@JamesSurowiecki @frankjdistefano But substitute Biden if you wish. Like every president, when speaking live, he says all sorts of stuff that's factually incorrect, presumably with greater consequences than Joe Rogan. — PolitiTweet.org

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@JamesSurowiecki @frankjdistefano His comments on, e.g., masks and herd immunity, and my general sense that he sometimes tells what he believes to be noble lies calculated for their behavioral effects rather than a scrupulously correct account of matters related to the pandemic — PolitiTweet.org

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@JamesSurowiecki @S___Elliott @frankjdistefano @NAChristakis Agree. — PolitiTweet.org

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@dmbean85 @GryphonWatcher I agree, so far NZ seems to suggest it is possible. And that's my tentative belief pending future events there. — PolitiTweet.org

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@JamesSurowiecki @frankjdistefano So given his track record should we cease allowing Fauci to do live interviews and fact check and edit him before airing? Stop airing politicians live too? — PolitiTweet.org

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@JamesSurowiecki @TT51612186 That's a reasonable view, and unlike what I was originally criticizing, it's quite specific. Do you feel the same way about live cable news shows? — PolitiTweet.org

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@dmbean85 @GryphonWatcher NZ is physically isolated, high trust, low density, wealthy, and educated. I don't think *if they can't manage no one can* is an unreasonable view, but if you disagree I'm happy to hear why — PolitiTweet.org

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@JamesSurowiecki @TT51612186 What do you think should happen? — PolitiTweet.org

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@JamesSurowiecki This is kind of what I mean. Before Covid, I suspect you didn't think *Joe Rogan should have to edit his podcast before release to avoid the possibility of errors.* Now, you seem to think that. Maybe you're right! Happy to hear more. But that would be a new standard, yes? — PolitiTweet.org

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@GryphonWatcher Similarly, do you need NZ levels of social trust or homogeneity or rural/urban divide? What are *all* the factors you need and could the U.S. bring all of those to bear? — PolitiTweet.org

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@GryphonWatcher If NZ, a country that has both a) extreme geographic isolation and b) extreme caution in its policies, couldn't contain Omicron, that tells us one thing. If it can, then it makes me wonder, do you need (e.g.) both and and b or just a or just b? I'm not sure. — PolitiTweet.org

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@JamesSurowiecki I have no doubt. A comedian with no particular expertise in anything is interviewing a bunch of dissenting doctors, some of whom make false statements. This would not meet the standards of 60 Minutes! But it seems new to hold *convo podcast hosted by comedian* to that standard — PolitiTweet.org

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@JamesSurowiecki I refer you to the back catalog of Oprah episodes as counterpoint. — PolitiTweet.org

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@GryphonWatcher Because I am less sure about whether NZ performing well shows us what NZ-like countries are capable of or what any country could achieve. — PolitiTweet.org

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@JamesSurowiecki And that a view lurking in the background is that we'd have beat this pandemic by now if only everyone would responsibly come to consensus behind the correct views and behaviors––and that censoring those who don't can help us get there. — PolitiTweet.org

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@JamesSurowiecki I think the norm in question here is actually something like, *is it okay to interview a dissenting voice in the medical field?* with the pre-pandemic norm being *yes* and the suggested pandemic norm being *no, it is irresponsible to air dissent on this because wrong views kill* — PolitiTweet.org

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@timeforjaya Doesn't Rogan reach fewer people behind a paywall at Spotify than he did before Spotify picked him up, when his podcast was free? — PolitiTweet.org

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This was perhaps epitomized by the public health workers who signed the letter calling on Spotify to develop "a misinformation policy" without specifying what that policy should say or avoid saying — PolitiTweet.org

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I think this gets at a central tension right now––some people believe that the norms that hold for all other kinds of public discourse should clearly be suspended or altered because of the pandemic (though, in my estimation, they aren't clear or consistent about the particulars) — PolitiTweet.org

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@5five0oh4four @koush My Tweet did not say Omicron would spread uncontrolled in NZ. It said that "if" it did that would prove something. — PolitiTweet.org

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@IM__A__RADICAL @GryphonWatcher No, I am explaining if/then statements to a group of people who are bafflingly unable to grasp how they work. — PolitiTweet.org

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@GryphonWatcher I did not "make a bet." I suggested that if x happened we would learn y. Then x did not happen. And readers like you who failed to grasp the basic logic of the original statement piled on as if I made an error. — PolitiTweet.org

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RT @Popehat: I’m really surprised cable companies haven’t found a way to charge for performatively removing a Chanel from your package. “I… — PolitiTweet.org

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@FunkenIdaho @JuliusGoat Nothing in the original Tweet is incorrect. — PolitiTweet.org