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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@JamesSurowiecki @ijbailey It's not. It's a description of the costs of her actions and why I find them unfortunate. But I don't think anyone should be angry with her or that she acted unethically or immorally. Just unwisely. Not all criticism is an attack. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 10, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @JamesSurowiecki They've expressed their belief that there was a benefit but they haven't shown persuasive evidence of one any more than you've shown persuasive evidence that you have new appreciation of her artistry. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 10, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey I already answered a question you asked after mine. Answer my question and I'll answer another one of yours. Unless you don't actually appreciate her artistry more now, and mistakenly thought otherwise because you like the politics of what she did... — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 10, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@JamesSurowiecki @ijbailey I'm not attacking her. She was and remains one of my favorite artists and I'll always love her. I think she made the wrong call here for reasons I articulated. That's not an attack, just my truthful assessment that what she did had some costs and zero benefit. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 10, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey I wouldn't appreciate the songs any less if she went on a murder spree. But you said you appreciate her artistry more now. So which songs? — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 10, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey What songs in particular do you appreciate more now? — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 10, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey A deeper appreciation for her politics perhaps, but not for her artistry. On the margins, she moved away from art that can unite all sorts of people and toward a polarizing culture war that this whole controversy has exacerbated without doing any good at all. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 10, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey "Need" is a stronger claim than I made. Her fans will find her, but this will cause fewer casual listeners to sample or stumble on her work. That's a shame and a cost, and there is no attendant benefit to her choice here that I see — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 10, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

It don't snow here Stays pretty green Gonna make a lot of money And quit this crazy stream — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 10, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

A roundup of arguments about Ukraine and what if anything the U.S. ought to do about Russian activities there https://t.co/iGTKjwKsMj — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 10, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

More https://t.co/N2h6eQB7Eb — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 10, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

Steph changed the game https://t.co/gqt1I6l4Bu — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 10, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ericlinuskaplan My original Tweet said: "Proposition: Joni Mitchell makes excellent, affecting art and significantly reducing the number of people with access to it has a negative influence on the world." That proposition doesn't hinge on Mitchell's morality one way or another. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 10, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ericlinuskaplan We agree that JM is allowed to pull her music. We disagree about whether doing so was wise and perhaps about whether integrity demands it. I say no, it does not, and that the world w/o her on Spotify is worse than the world with her on Spotify. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 10, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ericlinuskaplan So you think e.g. Dolly Parton and Kendrick Lamar lack integrity? — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 10, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ericlinuskaplan Do you think that allowing Spotify to stream ones music lacks integrity in a way that's analogies to taking mafia money? — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 10, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

It makes me feel sad that Joni Mitchell erroneously thinks that she can do more good by reducing the reach of her life's work. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 10, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

Proposition: Joni Mitchell makes excellent, affecting art and significantly reducing the number of people with access to it has a negative influence on the world. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 10, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

Do you regard "medical misinformation" as distinct from other kinds of misinformation? If so, why? — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 9, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@bksnav @StrangelEdweird Okay, if there's a record store and a Planned Parenthood in a mall should pro life people look down on the record store? — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 9, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

RT @TheAtlantic: In today's edition of the Up for Debate newsletter, @conor64 rounds up media reactions to Russia's possible invasion of Uk… — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 9, 2022 Retweet
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@bksnav @StrangelEdweird So if you run a record store, and across the mall there's a giant Whole Foods supermarket that's one of the Mall's anchors, is your record store associated with Whole Foods and complicit in bad things that it does? — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 9, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

Making policy in the United States is more like making policy in the EU than it is in making policy in a relatively small, relatively homogeneous EU state, and I think we might do better if policymakers chose their course with our limitations in mind. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 9, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

This in turn raises a question: is a country as big and geographically dispersed and as ethnically diverse as the United States capable of achieving trust levels similar to a Denmark or a South Korea? I don't think so. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 9, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

Ezra summarizes: "Moving every country up to the 75th percentile in trust in government—where Denmark sits —would have prevented 13 % of global infections. Moving every country to the 75th percentile of trust in fellow citizens — South Korea’s level—would have prevented 40%" — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 9, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

One striking outcome: "trust in government" and "trust in fellow citizens" were among the most important factors (more important than "trust in science," among many other things) — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 9, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

.@ezraklein has a good writeup of the recent Lancet study that tried to probe what explained variance among countries in Covid performance (1/x) https://t.co/qREfzzEE7W — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 9, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

How innocent and carefree we all were back then https://t.co/C4ALHhxtCa — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 9, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

Still against protests that block traffic now that they're coded right instead of left. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 9, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

I'm not an epidemiologist, but I can't help but wonder if the best way to address the centuries-old, multinational problem of irrational vaccine skepticism is to stream your folk-rock catalog exclusively on Apple Music. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted Feb. 9, 2022