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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@ethelredunread @jduffyrice Your premise is incorrect. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jduffyrice @ethelredunread I don't ignore it at all. I have written articles about it. Those curious about what I think should read them! — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jordanzakarin You're begging a lot of questions there! Clarifying as to your prejudices about campus conservatives. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@joshtpm @scottjshapiro No, I'm not. I'm arguing that the piece treats him as a malevolent figure who also does other newsworthy stuff that most Americans like, and wondering what facts or analysis you think ought to have been excluded from the piece and kept from readers due to his malevolent acts? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@sophiesmother95 @joshtpm @scottjshapiro Without them how would you know about the murder? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@jimmyshi03 @joshtpm @scottjshapiro The piece does treat him as malevolent. But it does not dismiss as irrelevant other stuff that he does. It treats the other stuff as newsworthy because the other stuff is consequential actions by a consequential country's leader. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@DarylCutter @joshtpm @scottjshapiro Yes, as the article clearly describes with emphasis, including in its first paragraph. When writing about a murderous head of state should one ignore everything but the murders or inform readers about other facts as well? I say the latter. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@joshtpm @scottjshapiro I'm trying to understand your meaning but you keep changing claims every time I interrogate them. Are you saying that everything he does is malevolent, or that you in fact agree with some of his reforms, but we should treat him as purely malevolent for some other purpose? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@joshtpm @scottjshapiro Are you saying that the piece overstates his power within Saudi Arabia? Or that being among the most powerful leaders in Saudi Arabia does not make one an important figure on the world stage? Or something else? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@sophiesmother95 @joshtpm @scottjshapiro Don't worry Barbara, that's a mischaracterizagion of the piece, which I urge you to read for yourself — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@cobra0483 @joshtpm @scottjshapiro The fact that you misidentify the author cuts against the notion that you read more carefully than me. And I can assure you that the author was not writing approvingly. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@cobra0483 @joshtpm @scottjshapiro No, in fact, the piece begins by telling readers who he is and that he committed the brutal murder of a journalist: https://t.co/fdvJs1al4X — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@joshtpm @scottjshapiro I don't know what that means. For better or worse--the latter in my estimation--he is, as a matter of fact, a global statesman. Why wouldn't we take him seriously? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@cobra0483 @joshtpm @scottjshapiro ... https://t.co/V5iAIanEt4 — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@joshtpm @scottjshapiro Puff piece? What on earth? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@DerekPederson3 @trizzlor Exactly — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@paint771 @kevinh8swriting constructive engagement--attack ideas, not people, disagree but don't stigmatize or shame, avoid ad hominem, etc. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@paint771 @kevinh8swriting "Being criticized — even strongly — during a difficult discussion does not trouble me. We need more classrooms full of energetic debate, not fewer. But when criticism transforms into a public shaming, it stifles learning." Universities should encourage — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@paint771 @kevinh8swriting I don't think that's right. Indeed I think the text directly contradicts it. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@ijbailey I didn't say you had. Someone objected to ad hominem and you objected to him as if that was wrong. But I think we should object to ad hominem in the classroom. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@Mudblood47 I'm glad. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@vituperativeerb No, I had it easy compared to students today https://t.co/fKWvwZn6Fa And for that reason, I feel for them. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@bendreyfuss Me too. One thing reporting on this has convinced me of is that things are much harder for students in the social media age, because unlike us, a thing they worry about is saying a thing in class that almost everyone is fine with but that one person Tweets or puts on Instagram — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@bendreyfuss There's a small group of hyperpolitical people, but I think a lot of people who self-censor do so because they don't see politics as the most important thing in life, so biting their lip when it comes up is rational when failing to do so would force them to bear social costs — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@arnoblalam So why be on Twitter? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
I hope young people who are reading this also understand that there is another campus faction who want conservatives to be included on campus and to voice their opinions. You probably underestimate the size of that faction because some of them are afraid to say that aloud. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
I would draw the conclusion that a faction of some power holds the position, *shaming is marshaled against conservative viewpoints on campus and that is okay because those viewpoints are bad so stigmatizing them is good for society.* — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
If you were a campus conservative, what conclusion would you draw from the fact that campus liberals who make free speech arguments typically emphasize *and I'm a liberal!* while many of their critics say *and they're right-wing* as if that is discrediting? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
FIRE steps in to correct what a bunch of journalists got wrong: https://t.co/rKMRqMGeNW — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@thesaladshooter Reason is a classically liberal publication that opposes racism. There is no contradiction there. — PolitiTweet.org
