Conor Friedersdorf

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @jbouie would you have me refrain from any comment on individual articles until a surf around the publication to see if other contrary articles ran, and then note that, even when it's of no relevance to my point? This is absurd. — PolitiTweet.org

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@ijbailey @jbouie My God you are insufferable. First, the argument of the editorial itself is what paints a picture of students who *don't want to tolerate Mike Pence on their campus*. Second, how would I know, seeing an editorial linked on Twitter, what else the newspaper published? That is, — PolitiTweet.org

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@MarcusWhaley1 @jbouie Conservatives were already talking about the story. — PolitiTweet.org

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@ijbailey @DavidAstinWalsh First, I think their view is wrongheaded, not "beyond the pale"--worthy of pushback, not suppression. Disagreeing with them and arguing for diversity of thought are in no way inconsistent. — PolitiTweet.org

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@jbouie The context of my work is to defend the wisdom of airing viewpoints that others want suppressed because of danger claims. There are lots of pundits who conflate what they find wrongheaded with what ought to be censored. I am as far from them as one can get. — PolitiTweet.org

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@ijbailey @DavidAstinWalsh Sorry, I'm not following this last tweet — PolitiTweet.org

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@jbouie I hereby acknowledge that an opposing op-ed ran. But I was objecting to the viewpoint expressed in the editorial, not the way they run the newspaper, which may well be exemplary. — PolitiTweet.org

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@jbouie No, my framing implies that I think its argument is weak and dispiriting, not that it should not have been expressed. I am baffled that you don't understand the point of highlighting views one disagrees with unless you don't think they should have been expressed. — PolitiTweet.org

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@jbouie @DavidAstinWalsh https://t.co/ZPBkx2wMvZ — PolitiTweet.org

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@jbouie @DavidAstinWalsh https://t.co/W09iYUQAae — PolitiTweet.org

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@jbouie I did not say it is "illegitimate." If I ran the paper and someone submitted it as an op-ed, I would run it. I believe it is wrongheaded and illustrative of a larger, alarming trend in campus opinion. — PolitiTweet.org

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@jbouie @DavidAstinWalsh You were sneering at me for reading and engaging their ideas, as if they should self-evidently be beneath my notice. — PolitiTweet.org

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@ijbailey @DavidAstinWalsh Their position as I understand it is that it endangers the lives of their classmates to have him on campus and morally incumbent on administrators to side with them. So... must doesn't capture all that, but I thought it was okay shorthand. Am I wrong? — PolitiTweet.org

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@DavidAstinWalsh @jbouie I've never actually observed anyone who works in higher ed sneering at student publications in the way that I've seen journalists do, as if to take the ideas in them seriously is self-evidently ridiculous, even during newsworthy controversies involving national figures — PolitiTweet.org

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@jbouie The point is to flag an actual example of a matter that is contested: whether there is bottom-up pressure in higher education to constrain campus discourse in illiberal ways based on wrongheaded theories and assertions about the relationship between speech and harm. — PolitiTweet.org

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@jbouie @DavidAstinWalsh This happened to cross my Twitter feed, so you're factually incorrect, but I do think more journalists of your ideological persuasion who opine on higher ed would be better informed about what actually goes on there if they read student newspapers rather than sneering at them. — PolitiTweet.org

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@DavidAstinWalsh It doesn't specify that his invitation should be rescinded but it says he shouldn't be platformed because platforming him is dangerous. — PolitiTweet.org

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@bill_of_lefts If your reading is correct, then you are correct that one of my points is not responsive to their argument; it would merely be relevant to whether it is reasonable to bar Pence from campus on *direct danger to students* grounds. I still don't get what "direct" means on your read — PolitiTweet.org

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@bill_of_lefts I also don't understand why this is incorrect even under your reading https://t.co/I9ir3qm0lQ — PolitiTweet.org

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@bill_of_lefts If your reading is correct then I don't understand what "direct" means? — PolitiTweet.org

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@bill_of_lefts So as you understand it, they don't think Pence coming to campus is dangerous, but rather, that just him speaking his opinions in the world generally is dangerous, and coming to UVA won't add to that danger? — PolitiTweet.org

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@bill_of_lefts "So-called 'perspectives' should not be welcomed when they spread rhetoric that directly threatens the presence and lives of our community members." — PolitiTweet.org

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@bill_of_lefts I have reread the editorial and it seems to me that they are, in fact, saying more than what you say they are claiming. — PolitiTweet.org

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@MattWelch #Coop-a-loop — PolitiTweet.org

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Strong display art game here. — PolitiTweet.org

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@adamdavidson Could you give me a sentence on what you mean by this? Are you saying that all the censored views are clearly known and rightfully censored? Or something else? — PolitiTweet.org

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@MarcBodnick @emilyvdw Strongly disagree. — PolitiTweet.org

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@bill_of_lefts Aren't they? — PolitiTweet.org

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@MarcBodnick @emilyvdw That proves that partisans on the right are inconsistent, not that the phenomenon doesn't exist. Of course the right engages in "cancel culture." — PolitiTweet.org

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@LindyLuan @emilyvdw It's a fair criticism, I read something into the OP that wasn't there. — PolitiTweet.org