Conor Friedersdorf

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RT @Noahpinion: Awesome!! — PolitiTweet.org

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I'd feel good about putting a team of Magic, MJ, Bird, Olajuwon/Malone/McHale(?), and Kareem against the best team of 5 in the league today. — PolitiTweet.org

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RT @sullydish: A metaphor for something quite beautiful. The courage of these people! — PolitiTweet.org

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@mrhortywho @jbouie @DavidAstinWalsh As for that bet, I must have missed your follow-up. Did you email? — PolitiTweet.org

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@mrhortywho @jbouie @DavidAstinWalsh I can't help but find Jamelle's dig odd, given that he and I both know well that I do many other things, and that he and I both know he recently expressed his own disagreement with a piece written by a college student, along with one of his colleagues — PolitiTweet.org

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@ericowensdc @nickmartin @nytimes Would you link them to a Vladimir Putin speech? — PolitiTweet.org

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@nickmartin @nytimes I am highly skeptical that an NYT link increases the odds of genocide but if you have an account of the mechanism by which that would happen I am happy to hear it out. I bet the Times would be too. — PolitiTweet.org

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@XBillups Can you give an example? That's too vague for me to know what you mean — PolitiTweet.org

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I'm kind of surprised that *read to your kids* isn't a more common public service announcement. — PolitiTweet.org

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@mathewi @nickmartin @nytimes Is there a research paper or scholar in particular that you recommend? — PolitiTweet.org

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@XBillups Seems like it would be easier to discuss things that you think do count than things I think don't count? I assume we both agree denigrating someone with a racial or ethnic slur is properly seen as beyond the pale. What else? — PolitiTweet.org

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@mathewi @nickmartin @nytimes I disagree. I don't understand why quoting or linking to awful views while criticizing them would make the views more credible. How does a link confer credibility? — PolitiTweet.org

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@XBillups That is how the left characterizes it. But then lots of people who were neither questioning nor denigrating anyone's humanity get piled on as if they violated a taboo. — PolitiTweet.org

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Ugh. https://t.co/gmGGY7X5I4 — PolitiTweet.org

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@nickmartin @nytimes What is the concern, that some Times readers are going to be converted to far right bigots after following the link? — PolitiTweet.org

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@ijbailey @JamesSurowiecki @athie_gnome @jbouie What was that point of view again? — PolitiTweet.org

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@jduffyrice If I saw one I would fix it! Always possible there's one I don't see. — PolitiTweet.org

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@jduffyrice I have no idea if he's ever objected to this before or not, but I suspect he is unbothered by mentions of the word because he recognizes the use mention distinction, and regards identifying as the word as different than mentioning it. But again, better question for him than me! — PolitiTweet.org

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@jduffyrice I feel like we've already gone around in circles on this and may just have an irresolvable gulf in understanding. — PolitiTweet.org

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@jduffyrice I think his issue is inseparable from the prior status of queer as a slur and his belief about what it's reclamation means for whom. But I guess we'd have to ask him to be sure. — PolitiTweet.org

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@jduffyrice I assume that you and Andrew are in agreement that white people should not identify as that word, which is why I don't understand why him expressing that, even in service of an argument you find flawed, is racist. — PolitiTweet.org

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@jduffyrice As far as I can tell,Andrew is not saying straight people should never utter the word queer, he is objecting to a straight person *identifying as* queer. I personally do not care about that, but neither do I think it's my place to tell gay people their objection is illegitimate — PolitiTweet.org

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@jduffyrice And then you're using that move to try to paint his use as racist even though, insofar as I can see, there's no coherent case for that charge. — PolitiTweet.org

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@jduffyrice It seems like you're begging the question. A gay man is telling you that straight people identifying as queer is inappropriate and you're saying not only that he's wrong -- maybe he is -- but that it's wrong for him to even proceed w an argument as if he is right. — PolitiTweet.org

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@jduffyrice Right, a reclaimed slur is being used by an outside group, and Andrew thinks that is objectionable, and to illustrate why he thinks so, he is pointing to a different reclaimed slur that everyone agrees that outgroups should never use. — PolitiTweet.org

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@lisa_b1962 @dstipson Nothing I wrote implies that I have only recognized the modern ways. We should all recognize all the ways deliberative democracy has been impinged on in history and the present. — PolitiTweet.org

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@jduffyrice It seems like he brought it in because he thinks it illustrates his point that a reclaimed slur should not be used by an outgroup. — PolitiTweet.org

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@jduffyrice I agree that they're not the same. What I don't understand is why the position *white people cannot use the n word and for similar reasons I think straight people shouldn't use queer* is a "racist" position. — PolitiTweet.org

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@jduffyrice Isn't he saying that *wouldn't* be okay, and that, by analogy, it shouldn't be okay for a straight person to call themselves queer, because that term, too, is a slur that a marginalized group reclaimed, making it okay for members of that group to use but not okay for nonmembers? — PolitiTweet.org

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via persuasion or cobbling together a majority or negotiating a coalitional compromise, but by rendering views, including some held by majorities and/or tens of millions, taboo and beyond the pale. — PolitiTweet.org