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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@WallOfMoms With respect, characterizing me as a "police apologist" shows utter unfamiliarity with my actual work, which includes quite radical proposals to transform policing and dozens of scathing critiques of the police published repeatedly over many years. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@WallOfMoms @SIfill_ I'm happy to engage you at length in any earnest critique you have of my positions but I will stop engaging hereafter if you falsely accuse me of operating in bad faith again. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@WallOfMoms @SIfill_ I did not, in fact, argue that "police brutality is intractable." I argued that one specific approach failed to lessen police killings and that we need to try an alternative approach with a better chance of success. It is disheartening to be mischaracterized so egregiously. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@WallOfMoms @SIfill_ In what sense is my confusion about being mischaracterized a "weapon"? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@GothamGirlBlue @pokebrain1 @SIfill_ It seems to me in both cases that things we value highly are more often improved than weakened by a culture of constructive critique and a posture of refusing to conflate critique with derogatory blame — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@GothamGirlBlue @pokebrain1 @SIfill_ It seems to me that much as the right wants to cast any critique of America as a failure of solidarity and complain about those who "blame America," parts of the left want to conflate any tactical criticism as akin to a failure of owed solidarity — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@GothamGirlBlue @pokebrain1 @SIfill_ To put this in terms that will perhaps resonate more: do you agree with the proposition that people who want the best for America should subject it to criticism and can improve it by doing so and that engaging in such criticism is not a betrayal of America? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@GothamGirlBlue @pokebrain1 @SIfill_ Figuring out when to change tactics can be hugely difficult. Perhaps I am wrong that now is a time when new tactics would have a better chance for success. But foreclosing the possibility is no way to run a rigorous, self-reflective, adaptable, goal oriented movement. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@GothamGirlBlue @pokebrain1 @SIfill_ You are correct that change is often difficult and takes a long time to achieve and that something can appear to be failing until it succeeds, but you are going so far as to refuse to consider that any activist tactic can fail to achieve an objective. Of course that happens too! — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@GothamGirlBlue @SIfill_ healthy coalitions need. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@GothamGirlBlue @SIfill_ enough time has passed to warrant alternative methods, some of which I've written about. One can reasonably contest that judgement, but to treat it as evidence of being ill informed or illegitimate is unwarranted and chills the sorts of tough intra-reformer conversations that — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@GothamGirlBlue @SIfill_ FWIW I think you are correct that BLM did succeed in the objective of electing some progressive prosecutors and I hope that helps to reduce unjust outcomes over time--we shall see--but so far, the tactical approach hasn't succeeded at reducing police killings, and I think — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@GothamGirlBlue @SIfill_ Within the Campaign Zero wing of BLM there were intense disagreements about the right tactical approach--about what would be most likely to fail or succeed at reducing total police killings. And I presume neither side would in any case blame the other for shootings. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@GothamGirlBlue @SIfill_ When an unjust police shooting happens the blame and culpability often lies with the officer, the department, the trainers, lawmakers, bygone discrimination, etc. And that says nothing about whether any given approach to improving things will fail or succeed. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@GothamGirlBlue @SIfill_ We need to be able to talk about strategic and tactical failures without presuming or litigating the distinct questions of assigning moral culpability for bad outcomes. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@GothamGirlBlue @SIfill_ That the movement failed to lessen police shootings doesn't mean they are to blame for police shootings; in my view they are not! If I told you that a pharma company's anti-Covid drug failed to heal long Covid would you think I was blaming the company for the illness? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@GothamGirlBlue @SIfill_ When I wrote that *my own* bygone efforts to raise awareness about police killings failed to lessen their frequency, I was not blaming myself or assigning responsibility to myself for police shootings; and the same goes for my statement about BLM. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@GothamGirlBlue @SIfill_ But mostly I want to contest your characterization of "victim blaming" because it fundamentally misunderstands my claims. That is to say: — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@GothamGirlBlue @SIfill_ The coalition of informed observers favoring police reform is much broader than the faction that holds the particular views that you are characterizing as synonymous with being informed--and that is a good thing. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@GothamGirlBlue @SIfill_ And writing on this after twenty years as a journalist, having spent hundreds of hours reporting on police abuses and penning dozens of stories, is not "parachuting in"! — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@GothamGirlBlue @SIfill_ The fact that we reach various divergent judgments and conclusions is not evidence of lack of historical knowledge or context--as is clear to anyone who spends very much time at all reporting on police reform, many deeply informed people hold a huge diversity of views. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@GothamGirlBlue @SIfill_ I did so in part in the context of having praised some specific efforts within the movement https://t.co/KLo90bpWuI I could go on about that particular example and others; suffice it to say I have watched and reported on this closely for years. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@GothamGirlBlue @SIfill_ I set forth three goals the movement had and failed to achieve, noting I too among many others who came before failed to achieve them. I was represented falsely as casting blame for police shootings on Black Lives Matter. (The part where I say I and others failed was elided.) — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@GothamGirlBlue @SIfill_ Setting aside my expertise for a moment, I made three assessments in that piece: that police killings haven't fallen, that more progressive candidates have not been elected president, and that "defund the police" is unpopular and not happening. Which of those is wrong? https://t.co/zUrdgyxzDb — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@GothamGirlBlue @SIfill_ Although the essay characterizes me as making claims about the q "where should we assign blame for continued police violence," I make no such claim, which I will clarify in a longer response to an essay I nevertheless enjoyed reading. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
Good to see: a faculty rebellion against administrators https://t.co/s75LNKn7Ew — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@SIfill_ I'm a bit confused by this--I agree that no one should need their hands held to confront police misconduct. I don't think I suggested otherwise? What I wrote is that we need a new approach to reducing police killings because since 2015 they haven't fallen. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
RT @and_furiouser: The AP in 2026 will be like "We recommend not referring to the individuals who sired, birthed, or raised you as 'your p… — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@Timberati My first name at the Atlantic . Com — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
The Black Lives Matter approach to reducing police killings hasn't reduced police killings. What's the best way forward for Americans who want to improve policing and the criminal-justice system? I urge your emails & will publish many viewpoints next week https://t.co/XO7yA0GTXi — PolitiTweet.org
