Conor Friedersdorf

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@XBillups @Loki1001 @ijbailey @TrustNobis @bernybelvedere @CathyYoung63 @hpmacd Again, you are misrepresenting me as having defended something I did not defend. That's three strikes, and I am moving on. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@XBillups @Loki1001 @ijbailey @TrustNobis @bernybelvedere @CathyYoung63 @hpmacd I personally think criticizing an institution for failing to anticipate a purported need to prepackage food in individual portions is unreasonable, but if you disagree, well, then we disagree — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@XBillups @Loki1001 @ijbailey @TrustNobis @bernybelvedere @CathyYoung63 @hpmacd Sure, insofar as anyone was mocking the medical condition as distinguished from the unreasonable demands on the institution I object. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@XBillups @Loki1001 @ijbailey @TrustNobis @bernybelvedere @CathyYoung63 @hpmacd I took that to be mocking the unreasonable demands made of the institution, not the medical condition, but perhaps Cathy can clarify. Until then I doubt the veracity of your interpretation. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@XBillups @Loki1001 @ijbailey @TrustNobis @bernybelvedere @CathyYoung63 @hpmacd Your analytic carelessness is frustrating. I observed, correctly, that it was not "cancel culture." You're labeling that a defense in a way that falsely suggests I was defending every aspect of it. If you want me to engage, be accurate. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@XBillups @Loki1001 @ijbailey @TrustNobis @bernybelvedere @CathyYoung63 @hpmacd I did not see Cathy mock a serious medical issue. I am also losing patience for the amount of time you're asking me to spend on a metapoint utterly unrelated to the substantive point I made here. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@XBillups @Loki1001 @ijbailey @TrustNobis @bernybelvedere @CathyYoung63 @hpmacd I am happy, Ryan, to urge all in this thread to stick to substantive complaints and eschew personal mockery. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@XBillups @Loki1001 @ijbailey @TrustNobis @bernybelvedere @CathyYoung63 @hpmacd *objected — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@XBillups @Loki1001 @ijbailey @TrustNobis @bernybelvedere @CathyYoung63 @hpmacd I am against cruel mockery. I wonder if you are, too? And if so can you point me to three examples where you have injected to it? Because I can do that. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@XBillups @Loki1001 @ijbailey @TrustNobis @bernybelvedere @CathyYoung63 @hpmacd There are one million pileons on Twitter per day. My threshold for defending the person at the bottom tends to be, are people trying to get them fired? Punished? Shunned from polite society? And even then one can only object to a tiny fraction. But as I said, here and everywhere, — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

RT @OrinKerr: Chilling details about the man arrested near Justice Kavanaugh's house. He has been charged with attempted murder. https://t… — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@Ohp_Sn @CathyYoung63 @Loki1001 @ijbailey @TrustNobis @bernybelvedere @hpmacd I think upon reflection they would realize that they fight with Cathy and I because they know us to be unusually principles, not because we are unprincipled. None of us is perfectly consistent but Cathy at least is in the 99th percentile of doing well on that metric — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@therealthebrad @Loki1001 @ijbailey @TrustNobis @bernybelvedere @CathyYoung63 @hpmacd Sorry where is the tweet where she "starts a pile-on"? — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@Loki1001 @ijbailey @TrustNobis @bernybelvedere @CathyYoung63 @hpmacd No, none of that follows. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@CathyYoung63 @Loki1001 @ijbailey @TrustNobis @bernybelvedere @hpmacd It's amazing how expansively @ijbailey defines cancel culture when he is hypocrisy-hunting. Seems to me you have to pick a definition and stick with it across circumstances or you're the one who is changing standards opportunistically — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@Loki1001 @ijbailey @TrustNobis @bernybelvedere @CathyYoung63 @hpmacd My Tweet defends against the particular charge that she is engaging in cancel culture, because analytically she is not, but does not defend against the charge that it's wrong to mock the person. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@broccolirobh88 You also post anonymously... — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@bernybelvedere @ArcDigi @mattyglesias It's weird that he thinks Matt is paid by the column inch! — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @caitlinmoriah @bernybelvedere @CathyYoung63 @hpmacd What do you mean "that very thing"? If anyone organizes a petition to formally sanction this person I will certainly object! — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@Profepps So which do you find incorrect? — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@Loki1001 @ijbailey @TrustNobis @bernybelvedere @CathyYoung63 @hpmacd A defense of what? — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@TrustNobis @therealthebrad @ijbailey @bernybelvedere @CathyYoung63 @hpmacd "Be succinct." — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@TrustNobis @ijbailey @bernybelvedere @CathyYoung63 @hpmacd You guys are applying cancel culture in the same loose, ill-defined, dubiously expansive way you properly object to when conservatives do it — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@TrustNobis @ijbailey @bernybelvedere @CathyYoung63 @hpmacd They are not synonymous. That is my point. If you're not trying to get someone punished or shunned or sanctioned then it isn't "cancel culture" in my book. Doesn't mean it's right or wrong, but it isn't that. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@Loki1001 @ijbailey @TrustNobis @bernybelvedere @CathyYoung63 @hpmacd In the same sense that you are. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@Loki1001 @ijbailey @TrustNobis @bernybelvedere @CathyYoung63 @hpmacd What game? Running defense for what? — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@Profepps Which of those do you think is wrong? I'll happily clarify why both are clearly correct. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

Almost everyone would suffer some if publicly denounced by a superior and suspended and investigated for months in limbo. If you can't grasp the suffering most in that situation would experience you won't understand why most people hate the culture that produced that suffering. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@Loki1001 @ijbailey @TrustNobis @bernybelvedere @CathyYoung63 @hpmacd Neither mocking anyone nor calling for them to be punished in any way. — PolitiTweet.org

Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@Loki1001 @ijbailey @TrustNobis @bernybelvedere @CathyYoung63 @hpmacd Where did I participate? — PolitiTweet.org