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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@rasmansa @ijbailey @IonaItalia My flight is about to take off so I won't be responding for awhile. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@rasmansa @ijbailey @IonaItalia This is my impression too: what's considered respectable in the field is policing problematic speech, not defending free speech rights. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@ijbailey @IonaItalia @rasmansa It says I focus my free speech reporting on cases where free speech is violated, much as I focused my civil liberties in policing stories on cases where civil liberties were violated. If I could ask again: can you point to a published DEI success story on the free speech beat? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@rasmansa @ijbailey @IonaItalia My current reporting on this is in the higher ed context, not private corporations, but I'll definitely keep that in mind for future lines of reporting. Anyone in higher ed you recommend? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@ijbailey @IonaItalia @rasmansa No I haven't read those tweets, hold on, let me find them, I'm apparently missing some — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@ijbailey @IonaItalia @rasmansa If a school added a DEI office and its graduation rates for students from historically underrepresented groups on that campus subsequently went up in a statistically significant way, I would consider that suggestive of success along an important metric. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@ijbailey @IonaItalia @rasmansa Where are the examples? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@ijbailey @rasmansa @IonaItalia On the free speech matters I have reported on to date, I do think it is possible for a DEI dean to be an outspoken proponent and defender of free speech, but I know of no actual example. Maybe you do know one. If so, tell me their name so I can reach out? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@ijbailey @BrandonLBradfor @rasmansa @IonaItalia No, I have not done that specific q and a. I have interviewed and quoted proponents of the approach in Evanston. And if I find the right person who is willing to correspond I may well do that q and a. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@rasmansa @ijbailey @IonaItalia I think those are reasonable metrics, and as I've just told you, I am indeed seeking out interviewees. If there is a specific person you think I should interview I welcome suggestions, too. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@ijbailey @BrandonLBradfor @rasmansa @IonaItalia That is untrue. I highlight voices I disagree with literally every week in my newsletter, which I launched specifically to air diverse arguments. I'll put my record there against yours any day. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@ijbailey @IonaItalia @rasmansa I keep asking what you mean by "a success story" so I can give you a specific answer, but you're not clarifying what constitutes a success story for you. Preventing speech from being punished? Higher graduation rates? Something else? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@ijbailey @IonaItalia @rasmansa I am open to the possibility of a free speech controversy where speech was going to be punished but a DEI dean stood up for it and stopped the punishment. But I don't know of such a case. Do you? I'd love to interview a DEI dean like that. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@rinanpakkala Lost — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@JillFilipovic Yep. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@ijbailey @IonaItalia @rasmansa I'm still unclear on what you mean. Could you point me to the sort of success story you find deserving of more attention? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@ijbailey @IonaItalia @rasmansa I'm curious, can anyone in this conversation point to any published account of any DEI bureaucracy success story? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@ijbailey @rasmansa @IonaItalia I do not think "complex racially-charged issues that can easily blow up" is a specific example. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@rasmansa @ijbailey @IonaItalia Indeed I am doing that. It's why I asked @ijbailey the question (though alas I still want a more specific account) — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@ijbailey @IonaItalia @rasmansa interested in reporting on the things themselves — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@ijbailey @IonaItalia @rasmansa I haven't ever reported on DEI offices per se. I have mostly reported on free speech in ways that sometimes involved DEI offices. Are you suggesting a piece praising a DEI office for not infringing on free speech? That said, I have talked to a couple such admins and am — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@wil_da_beast630 Wait, did I miss something in TGM? What was the challenge to wokeness? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@ijbailey @IonaItalia @rasmansa To your question, I've been looking for attempts to rigorously study outcomes in schools that added DEI offices to see if they measurably helped anything but I haven't found any yet. I'll let you know if/when I do. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@ijbailey @IonaItalia @rasmansa From your description I don't understand what they do. What's a fire in this context? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@ijbailey @IonaItalia @rasmansa Could you point us to a success story? — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
RT @jaycaspiankang: There really was nothing like watching Shaq. Look at that stat line lmao https://t.co/TlTnrx6uCd — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@Akashandhisls @VaclavHavel9 All around interesting replies, glad I asked the question. — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
Discuss. https://t.co/CW4A90wxnJ — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
RT @bayesianfox: @conor64 Once you become aware of the conflict theory vs. mistake theory distinction, you begin to see it everywhere. http… — PolitiTweet.org
Conor Friedersdorf @conor64
@hiltzikm I will refrain from fact-checking the claim about your mother as it seems irrelevant to the substance of our disagreement about California. — PolitiTweet.org