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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @danielwinlander I think, "is this bad for freedom of expression" is a better framework. I think this theater exercised its free association rights in a way that undermines freedom of expression. That's their right but I find it unfortunate and disappointing. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted July 21, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @danielwinlander I think "cancel culture" is a flawed term, so I try to avoid it. But it's hard to avoid when people who purport to agree that it is a flawed term will only talk about free expression controversies in terms of whether it is "cancel culture." That is my frustration. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted July 21, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @danielwinlander As well, the Tweet I was quoting features you using the term when you could have chosen others. Your focus on whether this is "cancel culture" puzzles me, because *you don't think that should be our focus* — PolitiTweet.org

Posted July 21, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @danielwinlander You started this thread by quote Tweeting me. I did not use the term "cancel culture." Yet your Tweet said "That doesn’t make it cancel culture." That seems like you introducing a term you want used less to a thread where it wouldn't be used but for your influence. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted July 21, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @danielwinlander *You are the one who introduced the flawed term to this conversation.* If you want "cancel culture" to be used less, maybe you should stop interjecting it where it wasn't before. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted July 21, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@AuntoV @ijbailey And that was a bad thing, and the people who objected were correct. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted July 21, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey I think we should make these judgments with regard to individuals, not groups. But insofar as we go your route and talk about groups, I don't know how one would define it in a way that some groups qualified and Black Americans didn't. By what metrics? — PolitiTweet.org

Posted July 21, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@AuntoV @ijbailey I can't ever recall an Artists for Jesse Helm movement. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted July 21, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@rajandelman What evidence can you cite that Chappelle's jokes cause harm? — PolitiTweet.org

Posted July 21, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey Do you think Chapelle is a member of a vulnerable group? — PolitiTweet.org

Posted July 21, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey @danielwinlander You are the one who introduced the "cancel culture" label here! I did not use that phrase. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted July 21, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@danielwinlander @ijbailey Yes, I also complained about the treatment of the Dixie Chicks and Bill Maher. These threats are always with us and should always be met with pushback, IMHO. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted July 21, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@ijbailey *Of course theaters cancelling artists for the content of their performances is a threat to free expression.* — PolitiTweet.org

Posted July 21, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

To me the relevant question isn't, "Will Dave Chappelle be okay?" Of course he will. I'm more interested in these questions: - How will the artistic expression of less famous performers be chilled? - Will this set a precedent that leads to similar treatment of other artists? — PolitiTweet.org

@ijbailey @ijbailey

Dave Chappelle was not canceled. A show was canceled. That's not even accurate. A venue decided to not to host him;… https://t.co/mlE9Btl2C4

Posted July 21, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

The case against gay marriage remains as weak as I recall from the aughts. https://t.co/UPqbmp221l — PolitiTweet.org

Posted July 21, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@mffwww @bendreyfuss If you continue in this vein I'm going to block you. Alternatively, you could look up the grave injustices, perpetrated disproportionately against poor and minority students, being done due to this approach, realize you're ignorant of the gravity of the stakes here, and apologize — PolitiTweet.org

Posted July 21, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@I_Come_1N_Peace @JDHaltigan Conservatives need to start advocating for smart solutions to climate change instead of pretending it isn't a problem to own the libs. Because it is a problem. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted July 21, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@JDHaltigan Dissent. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted July 21, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

Stephen Colbert just told the joke, "I'm so hip my doctor says I may need a replacement." — PolitiTweet.org

Posted July 21, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@mffwww @bendreyfuss The elimination of due process protections in Title IX proceedings. — PolitiTweet.org

Posted July 21, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

RT @jbarro: Setting aside the merits, I think it's bizarre to be someone who books shows for a living and not realize in advance the exact… — PolitiTweet.org

Posted July 21, 2022 Retweet
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

RT @bendreyfuss: The most basic way of articulating how I think the democrats got too captured by the left and have lost the gravitational… — PolitiTweet.org

Posted July 21, 2022 Retweet Deleted after 3 days
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

Warning: you may wipe out https://t.co/Jm5fRgJlpS — PolitiTweet.org

Posted July 21, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

Wedge swell https://t.co/IlQ1MImkK9 — PolitiTweet.org

Posted July 21, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

What is Westworld now ugh — PolitiTweet.org

Posted July 21, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@Brick_Frog No, that's also false. You should work on your accuracy! — PolitiTweet.org

Posted July 21, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@Brick_Frog No I've never boycotted any of those — PolitiTweet.org

Posted July 21, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

I would simply tolerate comedy that I dislike and direct any boycotting energy I had toward dictators or authoritarian politicians rather than artists. — PolitiTweet.org

A Pro @theTemp9

@conor64 I think the problem at this point is: how do you boycott netflix? There isn't really a place/face to get i… https://t.co/8mqqQlIi5T

Posted July 21, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

Disappointing. — PolitiTweet.org

First Avenue @FirstAvenue

We hear you. Tonight’s show has been cancelled at First Avenue and is moving to the Varsity Theater. See our full s… https://t.co/rpFYvicLeE

Posted July 21, 2022
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Conor Friedersdorf @conor64

@RSGAT But the nuclear waste has to get to Yucca Mountain, and transport is risky, so maybe building infrastructure there makes sense? — PolitiTweet.org

Posted July 20, 2022